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  1. #11
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    Jun 2008
    The a700 is now discontinued over at Sony Japan, so looks like something is coming soon!

    Last edited by dr4gon; 07-08-2009 at 02:23 PM.

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  2. #12
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    Nov 2008
    Monmouthshire, UK
    Yeh! Looks like the A700 definitely bit the dust. Thats a 2 year life cycle if a replacement comes before the year end.

    So what's coming? The A500/550 seems pretty certain and I think it likely gets the A700 sensor with a Liveview and maybe video.

    So how do they improve the A700? I can't see an FF sensor, I think that would make more sense in an A800. The only way I see to upgrade it is a better APSC sensor which would logically feature the new Backlit technology.

    Wishful thinking or what?

  3. #13
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    Jul 2005
    I don't think I'd ever buy a digital SLR where ISO800 would be pushing it. ISO800 is barely pushing it even on my Point & Shoot.

  4. #14
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    Mar 2009
    San Diego, CA

    Iso 800

    I know there are a lot of complaints about noise with the Sony's, but I've not really seen it all that much. I shot this at ISO-800.
    Attachment 47493
    And this is about a 50% crop of the original and then resized for the web. Not bad for ISO 800. Film at ISO 800 was much worse than this.

    As for the successor to the A700, my bet would be an A800, still with the APSC sized sensor, but w/ live-view and video. It'll probably even have the tilt screen like the A350. Doubt it would be a FF since the rumor is that there's going to be an A1000 as the super-pro model.
    Darin Wessel
    α 900
    Zooms: Tamron SP AF70-200mm f2.8 Di LD Macro; Sigma 28-90mm D macro, Konica-Minolta 18-70 f3.5-5.6
    Primes: Minolta 28mm f2.8; Sony 50mm f1.4
    Minolta RC-1000 remote commander

    Calumet Cambo CC400 4x5 View Camera
    YashikaMat 6x6 TLR (other accessories)
    Minolta Maxxum 7000 w/ Minolta 35-80mm f/4-5.6 & Minolta 2800 flash
    Minolta Maxxum 5000i & Vivitar 728 AFM flash
    What's next???

  5. #15
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    Nov 2008
    Monmouthshire, UK
    Darin, my point exactly; people spend too much time obsessing about a perceived noise problem.

    This is at ISO 3200. I took it RAW with noise reduction turned off and then ran it through Noise Ninja. There is noise but does it ruin the image?

    Attachment 47496

  6. #16
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    Dec 2006
    God's Country - Australia
    if your shooting at f5.6 and you're on a bright subject, good lighting with little shadow in the frame AND you run it thru NN then what did you expect ? of course you wont see a big noise problem. its a bit like saying just buy a shitty old minolta lens and then run a 50% USM over it and voila...all of a sudden its a zeiss.
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  7. #17
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    Feb 2006
    Des Plaines, IL
    Well, it is hard to make light show up where there is little. The camera has no idea what it is that you are shooting, so it tends to get creative. I still believe there are things out there that are not being shared at the $1000 level that would turn the photography world on its ear.

    One day, it'll come ... and then, you will have the shots you have only dreamed of.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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  8. #18
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    Oct 2008
    Raleigh, NC, USA
    Having owned an A300 and a 40D, and spent a good bit of time playing with an A700 and an A100, I can say that you would be much happier with either an A700 or a Canon xxD. The 40D/50D/5D are NOT a big difference over the A700. However the mentioned Canons and the A700 ARE a big difference over the A100 or A300. It is just the difference in an entry level DSLR and a prosumer DSLR. Bear in mind that the 5D and 5D Mk II trade a little bit of AF speed and FPS for full frame. Other than full frame, the 40D and 50D outspec their big brothers a little. However unless you are shooting sports or maybe wildlife, the FF sensor will have more worthwhile benefits than the higher speed.
    Jason Hamilton
    Selective Frame

    EOS 5D - Canon EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM, EF 35 f/2, EF 50mm f/1.8 Mk II, EF 70-210 f/3.5-4.5 USM, EF 85mm f/1.8 USM, EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro, Helios 44-2 58mm f/2 (with EOS adapter), 430EX, Canon S90
    Nikon FE - Nikkor 35mm f/2 AI'd, Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 AI, Nikkor 105mm f/2.5 AI, F to EF adapter, 2xVivitar 285, other lighting stuff
    Mamiya C220 - 80mm f/2.8

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  9. #19
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    Dec 2007
    Thanks Jason and everybody else for the help. Now I just need to meat with my friend and his cousin and see what we can do.

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    Sony A 100
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    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
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  10. #20
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    Nov 2008
    Monmouthshire, UK
    This is the same image but without Noise Ninja processing (in camera noise reduction was off).
    The brightness level is only 0.37 (right click the image for XIF).
    These settings reflect a real world situation where the use of ISO3200 brings the shot into hand holding territory (ISO200 needed 0.4secs).

    Attachment 47504

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