Ah Markers Mark, nice choice, enjoy! So uh Don interesting point, I have 12 foot ceilings, a 10 foot tree, and not a skinny one, a 12 foot wide room with other stuff in it, I can't get a pic with the whole tree in it!!! even with the 17 - 50mm still have a wide angle for sale? LOL. So here is a shot out the back and my hearth, etc.