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  1. #1
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    Wine shots critique!

    So One of my best friends out in Cali wants me to shoot photos of there wine bottles for them. The ones they had done look like crap...labels are dark and there are glares.

    I have never shot a product, let alone glass. So I am sure it can be tricky.

    I am looking for tips and pointers...I am going to stop tonight and grab a couple bottles and practice.

    Any help on what kind of setup I should use would be greatly appreciated!

    ERIK
    Last edited by gsusmaniac; 09-30-2008 at 07:15 PM.
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    Lighting, lighting, and more lighting. You need a lot of diffused lighting when doing studio shots (either through a diffuser or bounced off of an umbrella) - I'd go with lamps instead of flash, though, as flash can be tricky to calibrate on glass.

    If you can, shoot the bottles on a glass table, with a white sheet and strong lighting from underneath.

    DonKondra's setup in this thread: http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41040

    Is actually a good start, and the Windex and glass bowl show the kind of pictures you can get with good underlighting through the glass.

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    You can use circular polarising filter to minimise unwanted reflections. Do you have an external flash?
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    jekostas- That looks like a fantastic setup!!!

    I was also wonder if I want to shoot the bottles possible on the beach...looking into making something like this...

    http://samys.webphotoschool.biz/Shoo...ght/index.html

    Spider- I do not have an external flash...yet!

    I have a polarizer...but it is a cheap one and I dont really like to use it.
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    With a separate flash, you often have the option to bounce the flash off the walls or ceiling and so get good illumination across the room.

    But you can do this with cameras having a built-in pop-up flash too. All you have to do is to make a DIY diffuser - either using an old film container:



    or a ping-pong ball, empty cigarette pack, yoghurt cup (use your imagination)...



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    I'd love to try shooting some wine - I'd probably start with set up like this:



    Which then will give you something like:



    Good luck.
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    I really like that look, but they are looking to be able to read the label really well...

    I might try that just for fun to see how it turns out!!!
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    gsus, that is an empty glass against a black background. if your bottle has a label on it, it should work fine. look at aparmley's flickr stream, there are lots of examples of bottles with labels that look like they're exactly what your looking for.
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    MY apologies maniac. I'll pick up a bottle of wine to show you what that set up can do.
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    This sounds like a truly budget operation. Perhaps you could try the lamp that comes on every day for an average of 12 hours. Find a place outside with bright shade and rig up a stage for your product. You will need to spend some time at the fabric store (velvet material work great, no reflections, and cheaper versions are not that expensive). You will also have to figure out how to support the material. I would build a box of some sort, but I'm a woodworker. Cardboard is easier to work with and also to dispose of if you don't want it anymore.

    It will be hard to get sophisticated lighting in a budget setup like this, but you should be able to get a nice flat light with a decent background.

    For white wines, I recommend a natural, very pale, yellow or green, or an off white. This will help show the color of the wine. For reds, you can be more creative, since the bottle basically looks black.
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