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    Which Lens ??

    I am about to buy a Canon 30D as on upgrade from point and shoot and my first dSLR, but have no idea what lens to get. I'll use the camera for photos when out and about walking so that's landscapes, Statues, Churches ect. ,and for the odd photos at concerts in small venues. I am unlikely to take portraits or many other indoor shots.

    At the moment I can see two choices in my price range the Kit lens EF-S 17-85 F4/5.6 IS USM or EF 70-200 F4 L USM. I understand the the L series are far better lens, but will 70 be wide enough for landscapes.

    Any other recommendations in the 475 range welcome, Oh yes I am a total amateur to all this photo stuff.

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    Scrub the 70-200mm L. It's a great lens but hardly suitable for landscapes. 70mm just ain't wide at all.
    Christian Wright; Dip Phot
    EOS 5D Mark III | EOS 600D | EOS-1V HS
    L: 14/2.8 II | 24/1.4 II | 35/1.4 | 50/1.2 | 85/1.2 II | 135/2 | 180/3.5 Macro | 200/2.8 II | 400/2.8 IS | 16-35/2.8 II | 24-105/4 IS | 70-200/2.8 IS II | 100-400/4.5-5.6 IS
    580EX II | EF 12 II | EF 25 II

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    The 70mm lens on the 30D is going to act like a 112mm lens. So no, not a landscape lens. The 17mm is going perform like a 27mm lens, so better for landscapes.

    One thing to remember the image sensor on the 30D is smaller than a 35mm or full frame digital image sensor. The smaller image sensor crops all your pictures by a factor of 1.6, so just multiple the focal length of the lens by 1.6 and you will get the what the 30D will see.

    While a small image sensor is not good for wide-angle lenses, it is great for tele-foto. The 200mm lens will act like a 320mm.

    Another thought, if the 30D is straping you for cash for lenses, then look at the 20D and the Rebel XT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcenut
    While a small image sensor is not good for wide-angle lenses, it is great for tele-foto. The 200mm lens will act like a 320mm.
    Not really, all it is is a 200 with the sides cut off. It just appears to be a 320 - but you're not gaining anything.
    Christian Wright; Dip Phot
    EOS 5D Mark III | EOS 600D | EOS-1V HS
    L: 14/2.8 II | 24/1.4 II | 35/1.4 | 50/1.2 | 85/1.2 II | 135/2 | 180/3.5 Macro | 200/2.8 II | 400/2.8 IS | 16-35/2.8 II | 24-105/4 IS | 70-200/2.8 IS II | 100-400/4.5-5.6 IS
    580EX II | EF 12 II | EF 25 II

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    Instead of the 17-85mm IS USM, which is not the best lens form Canon (lacks in contrast, colour and even sharpness, and has quite some distortion) get a wide angle zoom since you are thinking of landscapes, and get a cheap lens like the EF 28-105 f3.5-4.5 USM II, which performs very well especially for its price.

    This combination will cost about the same as that 17-85, but will go wider, longer, and will perform much better.
    Canon EOS 350D, Tamron SP AF 90mm F/2.8 macro, Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 DC EX, Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L USM, Tokina AT-X124 Pro 12-24mm F4, Soligor 1.7x C/D4 DG Teleconvertor, Manfrotto 724B tripod, Canon Powershot S30

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    same scene with different focal lengths.
    http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20710
    Canon EOS 350D, Tamron SP AF 90mm F/2.8 macro, Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 DC EX, Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L USM, Tokina AT-X124 Pro 12-24mm F4, Soligor 1.7x C/D4 DG Teleconvertor, Manfrotto 724B tripod, Canon Powershot S30

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwphoto
    Not really, all it is is a 200 with the sides cut off. It just appears to be a 320 - but you're not gaining anything.
    Essentially true, but the effect is that you are using a longer focal length. It's all a matter of viewpoint. I believe I am gaining something when I can take the shot that appears to have been taken with a longer lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcenut
    Essentially true, but the effect is that you are using a longer focal length. It's all a matter of viewpoint. I believe I am gaining something when I can take the shot that appears to have been taken with a longer lens.
    And the difference between this and simply cropping a shot taken from a camera with a larger sensor is?
    Christian Wright; Dip Phot
    EOS 5D Mark III | EOS 600D | EOS-1V HS
    L: 14/2.8 II | 24/1.4 II | 35/1.4 | 50/1.2 | 85/1.2 II | 135/2 | 180/3.5 Macro | 200/2.8 II | 400/2.8 IS | 16-35/2.8 II | 24-105/4 IS | 70-200/2.8 IS II | 100-400/4.5-5.6 IS
    580EX II | EF 12 II | EF 25 II

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