View Full Version : Interesting book.

03-05-2009, 05:37 PM
I've just been reading a book aimed at brides that I found in Barnes and Noble (taking advantage of my corporate discount).

There was an interesting section in which the author discussed the price of photography. His basic thing was that every wedding should be photographed for posterity. He then discussed the costings and it was very interesting. In a nutshell, he was telling people why there were so many price ranges and what to expect at each range. I'll paraphrase.

Budget $0 - $100
Guests using compact cameras. This budget pays for film and/or a compact camera or memory cards and a compact digital.

Budget $100 - $300
Uncle Bob or some other photo enthusiast taking photos for the bride and groom. Here he emphasised that uncle Bob needs to be compensated even if he said he'd do it free as in the case of film, at $10 a roll plus $20 for processing, it's a bit much to ask him to bear the cost as well as using his time free. In the case of digital, even the cost of equipment and wear and tear needs to be considered.

Budget $300 - $500
An amateur taking photos or a beginner doing his portfolio. Again, wear and tear must be taken into consideration plus expenses and something toward his time. Digital cameras cost more and depreciate faster. They also wear out faster. Thus each frame has a cost. With film, we're back at the $30 a roll cost.

Budget $500- $1000
Low end professional. Here we're talking about somebody who does weddings as a part-time business. Business expenses are factored in such as advertising, travel, higher equipment depreciation, accountants fees, bank expenses etc.

Budget over $1,000
Mid range and up. Here we're talking about professionals with assistants and higher business expenses, more equipment and thus much higher costs.

It was a very interesting read.

03-05-2009, 08:00 PM
'Cause your photographer's porche doesn't fill itself up with gas. :D

I've read very simulare things in wedding books. Though, most of the books I've read imply that the 0-300 dollar options really will leave you wanting.

03-05-2009, 08:29 PM
Oh it's clearly somebody trying to talk up the price.

One thing I find very common with photography books is that some photographer writes a book because they have a computer and a few dozen photos that have never ever sold. They use those photos, write a few hundred words, padding the words with large photos. Then they call it a book. The result is usually complete rubbish. I looked at this book (The Digital Photography Book: The Step-by-Step Secrets for How to Make Your Photos Look Like the Pros, Volume 1 by Scott Kelby
ISBN-13: 9780321474049) the other day and decided it was a waste of time even looking at it. I spend quite a lot of time in bookshops. I did, however, splurge on Steve Sint's "The Bride's Guide to Wedding Photography" ISBN 1579904815. It makes some interesting points. It's not probably worth the $19.95 that it costs but as I get a 20% discount on all my purchases with my corporate card, it does leave me more freedom to buy unknown quantity books. My wife looked through it, glancing at the photos and declared a lot of them to be terrible. I tend to agree though some of the ideas were quite good. I might use some later.

My main thrust right now though is preparing for a bridal show. I have to print up some nice photos - probably B&W and make some signs, put together a guest book etc.

03-05-2009, 09:43 PM
I've got Scott Kelby's "The Adobe Photoshop CS3 Book for Digital Photographers." He does alot with the AdobeTV (http://tv.adobe.com/#) site. I find his book and stuff pretty good, kinda annoying in video, but knows what he's doing. Though, he seems to be better with photoshop technique than with actual photography.

03-06-2009, 07:39 AM
In the budgets you listed above, was there any mention of what the B&G should expect for the money spent? At the very low end I would suspect only a CD/DVD of amateurish images or prints from Wallymart. On the other end there might be much more comprehesive professional coverage of the event and a package which may include quality done enlargements framed or mounted and/or an album. I guess what I'm leading to is, in the $500-$1000 budget range, which I suspect is about where you're at (low end professional?), what is the B&G going to expect to get from you? Even when I first began doing weddings back in the late 70's, the minimum a couple would get would be a pro-grade album (screw & post binder w/inserts) with lab processed proof size prints. Subsequent print sales usually came. In the $500-$1000 range I would think an album of the "best shots" proof sized prints would be the least that would be expected by a B&G. To me, anything less puts you back at Uncle Bob or amateur status.

Are we going to see some photography book reviews here, now that you have access to all those books? :)

03-06-2009, 08:46 AM
Lol. I can review some of the books I see in the bookshop...

Off the top of my head there are two with self-explanatory titles - "The big book of breasts" and "The big Penis book". Quite why they're in the photography section I do not know as they should be in the porn section.

Name a book and I'll see if I can find a copy and do a mini review.

In terms of prints, I discovered RCProLab adds an extra $4 to each print to do the corrections. If I can sell that extra $4 to the B&G then it makes my life much simpler.

03-06-2009, 09:03 AM
......In terms of prints, I discovered RCProLab adds an extra $4 to each print to do the corrections. If I can sell that extra $4 to the B&G then it makes my life much simpler.

That's not something you'd do yourself???? :confused:

03-06-2009, 09:11 AM
That's not something you'd do yourself???? :confused:

Lol. I probably will do all that myself. I'd like to be able to concentrate on doing photos and not messing about with photoshop though.