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Nickcanada
02-19-2009, 10:44 PM
I just got back from a show and I have to share some ISO 12800 shots with you.

50D, sRAW 2, ISO 12800 85mm 1.8

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k162/nickandaline/IMG_1697.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k162/nickandaline/IMG_1697-2.jpg

another ISO 12800

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k162/nickandaline/IMG_1711.jpg

Now some ISO 3200

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k162/nickandaline/IMG_1783.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k162/nickandaline/IMG_1799.jpg

I spent a few mins comparing my DPP edits to my LR. Funny how the program I use changes how I want the final image to look like.
my DPP edit

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k162/nickandaline/IMG_1807-2.jpg

LR edit

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k162/nickandaline/IMG_1807.jpg

This Drummer and singer/bass player were amazing. It was a two piece band called Molten Lava. I haven't gotten this excited about a band in along time, check em out... keep in mind, drums and bass guitar only.... http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=25067180

24Peter
02-19-2009, 10:47 PM
Nice Nick! How big are the sRAW2 files from the 50D again?

faisal
02-20-2009, 12:52 AM
nice.....those ISO 12800 shots are totally usable...got any ISO 6400 shots???

Nickcanada
02-20-2009, 06:22 AM
Nice Nick! How big are the sRAW2 files from the 50D again?

thanks. sRAW 2 is 3.8MP which I think is more than the 1D classic???

Nickcanada
02-20-2009, 06:25 AM
nice.....those ISO 12800 shots are totally usable...got any ISO 6400 shots???

Yeah, I was shocked when I opened the files! I don't have any ISO 6400 unfortunately. I never think of that kinda stuff. From the little testing I've done 6400 looks a lot like 12800. By that I mean it looks more like 12800 than it does 3200.

gilly
02-20-2009, 06:28 AM
Man those are amazing at 12800!

Comparing the last two, the LR edit wins it for me.

Nice work!

Nickcanada
02-20-2009, 09:51 AM
Man those are amazing at 12800!

Comparing the last two, the LR edit wins it for me.

Nice work!

Thanks, ya know I'm not crazy about either edit... here is a new DPP edit...

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/livelifelivepics/IMG_1807-3.jpg


A few quick things about the night. First time I did some serious shooting with the grip on the 50D and I must admit it's very nice. I shot the whole night in Servo and I didn't use the center point at all... That is a huge improvement over the 20D. I tried shooting in Av a bit thinking I could just move around from the dark parts of the stage to the lighter parts at ISO 12800 and not worry too much about playing around with exposure settings.... boy was I wrong. The camera was blowing out faces like mad. I think the 20D tended to underexpose so I didn't have that problem before. This also got me thinking about all the threads I read about people thinking the 50D has less dynamic range then some of the previous cameras. I have a feeling people just aren't used to the metering on the 50D yet. I should also add that in normal shooting conditions I think the 50D's meter rocks but it was not working out for me at the concert.

One other thing. The LCD is proving to be very useful. On the 20D I used the LCD to view the histogram and the highlight warning. Now I can actually see what my exposure levels will be throughout the image by the LCD. I still use the Highlight warning. I should also add that the exposure in the above images have been brought down by about one stop. That seems to be the sweet spot for noise control.

gilly
02-20-2009, 11:40 AM
LR still wins it for me!
A concert like that is really gonna push a meter to it's limits though, huge contrast there. I use the highlight warning too, really useful hey! The 5D's LCD is rubbish so for me it's between the histogram and the highlight warning until it hits the Mac.

I couldn't live without a grip on either camera now. Without one I don't know where to put that little finger!

GaryS
02-20-2009, 12:07 PM
I keep going back and forth on the grip.... 1/2 the people say they won't use a camera without one, and the other half say they hate them and never use em.

I'm going to have to just buy one to see, I guess.

Oh yeah, your shots are great as usual.... You are REALLY tempting me to look at a 50D.

FLiPMaRC
02-20-2009, 12:40 PM
Oh yeah, your shots are great as usual.... You are REALLY tempting me to look at a 50D.

+1 :cool: And I hate you for tempting me :p

faisal
02-20-2009, 12:44 PM
+1 :cool: And I hate you for tempting me :p

+1....if I have the funds that is!!! :)

adam75south
02-20-2009, 01:55 PM
I keep going back and forth on the grip.... 1/2 the people say they won't use a camera without one, and the other half say they hate them and never use em.

i gotta have it...so much i dropped the ridiculous $275 on the 5d II grip. it just saves me so much time straightening photos later.

Nickcanada
02-20-2009, 07:42 PM
Here are a few more....

I found an ISO 6400 shot for you Faisal...

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/livelifelivepics/Oldboys/IMG_1591.jpg

Now for the next few I decided to embrace the noise of 12800. I like the results what do you guys think?

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/livelifelivepics/Oldboys/IMG_1681.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/livelifelivepics/Oldboys/IMG_1690.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/livelifelivepics/Oldboys/IMG_1661.jpg

and a few others I like...

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/livelifelivepics/IMG_1732.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/livelifelivepics/IMG_1713.jpg

JMWallace
02-20-2009, 08:27 PM
Nice series Nick!

The 12800 is about my 1600 on the 1D MK2n. They look great!

Looks to me like the DPP edit tends more toward the magenta/red range and to me looks just a bit more "rich". Not sure if thats the right word.

The LR edit looks a little flat.

I wonder if the difference is in the color space they run in. I know that LR runs in ProPhoto RGB. I wonder if DPP runs in sRGB.

Actually, I had noticed a while back that I was having some differences when moving files from LR to PS. Now I import them for editing into PS as ProPhoto then convert them to sRGB on the final save.

As far at the metering - what mode are you using? I struggle with this sometimes at weddings...and, of course, that is NOT the place to experimenting.

I'm wondering if spot would work better for you...but like I said i don't know which each does very well.

Again man...really nice set!

Rooz
02-20-2009, 11:25 PM
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/livelifelivepics/IMG_1732.jpg



not a fan of those 12800 shots in the same post. they look horrific. but this one is a freakin pearler. one of the nicest band shots i've seen here.

michaelb
02-21-2009, 07:01 PM
I should also add that the exposure in the above images have been brought down by about one stop. That seems to be the sweet spot for noise control.
Great shots Nick. I must admit that I was amazed by the noise performance your getting in sRAW, but I think overexposing some (exposing to the right) really helps, as your shots illustrate - good work.


...One other thing. The LCD is proving to be very useful. On the 20D I used the LCD to view the histogram and the highlight warning. Now I can actually see what my exposure levels will be throughout the image by the LCD. I still use the Highlight warning.
I really hate the 5D's LCD and I love the 40D's - I can only imagine how nice the 50D's LCD is.

Nickcanada
02-22-2009, 07:53 PM
Nice series Nick!

The 12800 is about my 1600 on the 1D MK2n. They look great!

Looks to me like the DPP edit tends more toward the magenta/red range and to me looks just a bit more "rich". Not sure if thats the right word.

The LR edit looks a little flat.

I wonder if the difference is in the color space they run in. I know that LR runs in ProPhoto RGB. I wonder if DPP runs in sRGB.

Actually, I had noticed a while back that I was having some differences when moving files from LR to PS. Now I import them for editing into PS as ProPhoto then convert them to sRGB on the final save.

As far at the metering - what mode are you using? I struggle with this sometimes at weddings...and, of course, that is NOT the place to experimenting.

I'm wondering if spot would work better for you...but like I said i don't know which each does very well.

Again man...really nice set!

Thanks! I have found LR to be a little "flat" too.

I used center weight average... I think that's what it's called??? it's the {o} symbol. I tried spot but it's not tied to the focus point so the camera was metering for the dark shirts.... The 1D series cameras have spot metering tied into the focus points right???

Nickcanada
02-22-2009, 07:59 PM
not a fan of those 12800 shots in the same post. they look horrific. but this one is a freakin pearler. one of the nicest band shots i've seen here.

thanks rooz! I knew the 12800 shots wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea... but those are the ones the band liked the most.

Nickcanada
02-22-2009, 08:00 PM
Great shots Nick. I must admit that I was amazed by the noise performance your getting in sRAW, but I think overexposing some (exposing to the right) really helps, as your shots illustrate - good work.


I really hate the 5D's LCD and I love the 40D's - I can only imagine how nice the 50D's LCD is.

thanks Michael!

JMWallace
02-22-2009, 08:15 PM
The 1D series cameras have spot metering tied into the focus points right???

Actually not sure. Someone else will have to answer that one.