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Rooz
09-08-2008, 05:42 PM
as many of you know i've long been an advocate for grey market and in paritcualr HKSupplies from hong kong and d-d photographics in sydney.

i've noticed 2 things lately:

1. ever since the d700 the price of some nikon gear, (particularly non-DX product), has dramatically increased lately. the 70-200 is now $2400 odd. i remember picking that up a year ago for $2k from HK supplies. the 105VR is over $1k right now and i bought it for $735 from d-d maybe 9 months ago.

2. ECS, (cameras.net.au), who are genine Nikon Australia sellers have really taken on grey market in pricing. HK prices, (and any grey), for the first time since i can remember are not as attractive as they used to be. some real quick price comparisons:

d700: $3575 vs $3499
sb900: $615 vs $645
105VR: $1070 vs $1025
70-200VR: $2395 vs $2355
d90: $1385 vs ??? (probably roughly the same)

Grey market has really been biting them in the ass and they had to respond. another good point here is that while they have been experiencing MASSIVE sales growth since the d300, their prices have been coming down but grey have been going up. so it makes you wonder...with all this new demand for nikon product, and the d90 likely to drive this even harder, who is price gouging now ?

moral to the story ? it used to be a no brainer to either go to d-dphoto/ photobuff/ online imports, cos the savings were significant. now much less so. check the genuine product first cos you may be surprised at the pricing comparison nowadays.

K1W1
09-08-2008, 06:26 PM
The reason the prices in HK have been going up is the crash of the US$.
To a large extent the rising Aus$ shielded us against that but now that the Aus$ is back in the low 80 cent range prices here will start rising - and quickly I suspect.
At the moment stocks on shelves may well be valued around 95 cents US = $1 Australian. When the new shipments arrive at 85 cents US = $1 Australian things will change.

cpaussie
09-08-2008, 09:42 PM
I agree with Rooz, I have been looking, and found this site
http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/category148_1.htm
The price is almost the same as the grey market.

Screenclutter
09-08-2008, 10:21 PM
The US dollar is becoming stronger again from what I read last.

achuang
09-09-2008, 01:07 AM
I noticed the price of the SB900 at ECS a couple weeks ago dropping from $645 to $615. I'd definitely consider buying from them as long as shipping down to melb isn't too much.

K1W1
09-09-2008, 01:40 AM
If it's any more than $20 they are ripping you off. An SB900 will fit into a 3kg overnight bag which should only cost them $12-15.

Dread Pirate Roberts
09-09-2008, 05:45 AM
It's still worth checking both ways.

Ssil just found us both a nice little deal on the Tamron 90mm F2.8 macro from Hong Kong through Digital Rev. Delivered to my door for $410 AUD (including ripping us both for $55 of freight). Arrived Monday. Last I checked that lens was $450 USD at B&H so I was pretty happy.

Bad news on the 70-200, I'd been planning on eventually getting one (when I thought they were only $1,500). Can't justify $2,500 or more since the dollar continues to plummit.

achuang
09-09-2008, 05:49 AM
Nice find on the tamron. With the rumours of an update to the currrent 70-200 VR at photokina, you might be able to pick up a secondhand or old stock for cheaper than the usual $2400 price tag.

Rooz
09-09-2008, 05:52 AM
It's still worth checking both ways.

Ssil just found us both a nice little deal on the Tamron 90mm F2.8 macro from Hong Kong through Digital Rev. Delivered to my door for $410 AUD (including ripping us both for $55 of freight). Arrived Monday. Last I checked that lens was $450 USD at B&H so I was pretty happy.

Bad news on the 70-200, I'd been planning on eventually getting one (when I thought they were only $1,500). Can't justify $2,500 or more since the dollar continues to plummit.

thats a great price on the tammie. wow.
i dont think the 70-200 was ever that low, the cheapest i saw it was just a tad over $2k.

K1W1
09-09-2008, 05:52 AM
(including ripping us both for $55 of freight).

If it's through ebay there is a reason.
Sellers do not pay a commission to ebay for freight so the trick is to deflate the selling price (reduce the amount commission is paid on) and up the freight amount. It's common practice by most regular ebay sellers so you have to use the total delivered to door price when comparing the same item from different sellers.

Turn
09-09-2008, 06:03 AM
these are the times that being Australian isn't a good thing

I just hope this drives Canon to cheaper prices :D

Rooz
09-09-2008, 06:07 AM
I just hope this drives Canon to cheaper prices :D

it only stands to reason. it is a cheaper product after all. :p

Dread Pirate Roberts
09-09-2008, 06:14 AM
If it's through ebay there is a reason.
Sellers do not pay a commission to ebay for freight so the trick is to deflate the selling price (reduce the amount commission is paid on) and up the freight amount. It's common practice by most regular ebay sellers so you have to use the total delivered to door price when comparing the same item from different sellers.

Thanks for the explanation K1W1. Ssil just said they always inflate the freight, I hadn't realised their motive.

Yeah the 70-200 may never have been $1,500 but that was the figure I put in my head for some reason (I think I saw $1,500 USD at B&H maybe).

Sure wish I'd bought that 2nd hand 400mm F4 at $1,000 now. But then again I might appreciate still having a testicle at some point in the future.