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Rooz
09-02-2008, 03:50 AM
Tamron annouced more goodies for d40/40x/60 owners...including the legendary 90mm tamron macro lens.

pretty much all of tamron, sigma and nikkors are now being released with in-lens motors so this is great news for you guys. but imo, it also signals that the loss of the motor cant be too far away further up the nikon line.

SP AF90mm F/2.8 Di MACRO 1:1 with Built-in AF Motor for Nikon (Model 272E) -Lightweight, Compact and High-performance Macro Lens
Designed for Full-size SLR Cameras

http://www.tamron.co.jp/en/news/release_2008/images/0901/272e.jpg

NEW TAMRON SP AF10-24mm Di II HIGH-PERFORMANCE ULTRA WIDE-ANGLE ZOOM LENS WITH UNPRECEDENTED FOCAL LENGTH RANGE (MODEL B001) Designed for Exclusive Use for Canon and Nikon (with Built-in AF Motor) Small Sensor DSLR Cameras

http://www.tamron.co.jp/en/news/release_2008/images/0901/b001.jpg

and check this superzoom out. 18-270mm with VC !! dayum

ANNOUNCING THE TAMRON AF18-270MM Di II VC ULTRA HIGH POWER ZOOM LENS A Technological Breakthrough-World's Longest Range 15X Zoom Lens Has Exclusive Built-In Vibration Compensation Mechanism Optimized For Consumer Digital SLR Cameras

http://www.tamron.co.jp/en/news/release_2008/images/0901/b003.jpg

K1W1
09-02-2008, 04:09 AM
it also signals that the loss of the motor cant be too far away further up the nikon line.


Surely the other manufacturers have to be looking at this as well. I can't see why companies like Sigma and Tamron would go to the trouble and expense of developing these news lenses if they hadn't had the behind the scene nods and winks from the likes of Canon and Pentax.
From the camera manufacturers point of view it drives down the initial purchase price of new cameras by shifting the focus motor to the aftermarket market and that must be something they are considering.

Rooz
09-02-2008, 04:29 AM
canon dont have AF motors in the body anyway, not sure about pentax or sony.

K1W1
09-02-2008, 04:35 AM
So what is the aperture of the 10-24?

craigyc
09-02-2008, 05:01 AM
Nice! once I get my new body i've been considering picking up the tammy 90mm! If the price increase over the non-AF motor version isn't too much of an increase then I will go for it!

Rooz
09-02-2008, 05:03 AM
So what is the aperture of the 10-24?

10-24mm F/3.5-4.5 Di II

achuang
09-02-2008, 05:54 AM
Good to see that we'll be getting (hopefully) quicker and silent AF, and smaller camera bodies in future.

Rooz
09-02-2008, 06:01 AM
andrew, what you buying with that glass your sellin ?

achuang
09-02-2008, 06:03 AM
Planning to buy the Nikon 105 VR, your favourite lens. Thought I'd put it on here before I put it up on ebay.

Actaeon
09-02-2008, 08:03 AM
If I recall correctly, the Di II is like Nikon's DX, is that right?

I like the idea of an 18-270 more than the 24-300mm, but if thats the case, don't think it'll work with FX (well, it will crop it).

I assume the aperture is f/3.5-6.3. for that lens as well?

Too bad its the same with the 10-24mm. I think the 10-24 on FX would be excellent!

XaiLo
09-02-2008, 02:10 PM
Tamron annouced more goodies for d40/40x/60 owners...including the legendary 90mm tamron macro lens.

pretty much all of tamron, sigma and nikkors are now being released with in-lens motors so this is great news for you guys. but imo, it also signals that the loss of the motor cant be too far away further up the nikon line.

SP AF90mm F/2.8 Di MACRO 1:1 with Built-in AF Motor for Nikon (Model 272E) -Lightweight, Compact and High-performance Macro Lens
Designed for Full-size SLR Cameras

http://www.tamron.co.jp/en/news/release_2008/images/0901/272e.jpg

NEW TAMRON SP AF10-24mm Di II HIGH-PERFORMANCE ULTRA WIDE-ANGLE ZOOM LENS WITH UNPRECEDENTED FOCAL LENGTH RANGE (MODEL B001) Designed for Exclusive Use for Canon and Nikon (with Built-in AF Motor) Small Sensor DSLR Cameras

http://www.tamron.co.jp/en/news/release_2008/images/0901/b001.jpg

and check this superzoom out. 18-270mm with VC !! dayum

ANNOUNCING THE TAMRON AF18-270MM Di II VC ULTRA HIGH POWER ZOOM LENS A Technological Breakthrough-World's Longest Range 15X Zoom Lens Has Exclusive Built-In Vibration Compensation Mechanism Optimized For Consumer Digital SLR Cameras

http://www.tamron.co.jp/en/news/release_2008/images/0901/b003.jpg


Who knew I'd be a pioneer and a trend setter. :p lol

fionndruinne
09-02-2008, 02:18 PM
Heheh, way to go Xai.

This is really nice, but now I wonder if I really want to pay more for an AF-S lens soon after its release, rather than just acquire a shiny new D90.;)

Rooz
09-03-2008, 06:44 PM
hold onto your wallets ladies and gentlemen. :)
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/01/3-lenses-confirmed-for-photokina.aspx
50/1.4 afs
85/1.4 afs
70-200/2.8VRII

fionndruinne
09-03-2008, 11:03 PM
... I wonder if Nikon will be quick to adopt Sigma's concept with their 50mm HSM lens, building it more as a more substantial APS-C format portrait lens than an old-fashioned, compact normal lens.

Turo
09-03-2008, 11:13 PM
hold onto your wallets ladies and gentlemen. :)
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/01/3-lenses-confirmed-for-photokina.aspx
50/1.4 afs
85/1.4 afs
70-200/2.8VRII

I'm excited! I may have to sell a kidney and maybe even a lung in 2009, but I can't wait to see the new 70-200! :eek: :cool:

Rooz
09-04-2008, 12:38 AM
... I wonder if Nikon will be building it more as a more substantial APS-C format portrait lens than an old-fashioned, compact normal lens.

not quite sure what you mean by that but i can almost guarantee that the lens', (if optically changed at all), will be built to perform best on FX. as it should be really.

ColColt
09-04-2008, 10:08 AM
hold onto your wallets ladies and gentlemen. :)
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/01/3-lenses-confirmed-for-photokina.aspx
50/1.4 afs
85/1.4 afs
70-200/2.8VRII

Today I got a confirmation on at least 3 lenses (released at Photokina):
AF-S 50mm 1.4 G - replacement is coming (confirmed)

AF-S 85mm 1.4 G - replacement is coming (confirmed)

AF-S 70-200mm 2,8 VRII - replacement is coming (confirmed)

Crap!! I just recently bought an 85 f1.8D.

XaiLo
09-04-2008, 12:33 PM
fionndruinne, wat up man. ;)

So who's purchased some radio poppers?

Actaeon
09-04-2008, 08:54 PM
Today I got a confirmation on at least 3 lenses (released at Photokina):
AF-S 50mm 1.4 G - replacement is coming (confirmed)

AF-S 85mm 1.4 G - replacement is coming (confirmed)

AF-S 70-200mm 2,8 VRII - replacement is coming (confirmed)

Crap!! I just recently bought an 85 f1.8D.

Yeah, and I just got a 50mm f1.4 D! I feel your pain.

Oh well, not as big of a hit as the 85mm, but it still sucks.

I can just sell it and buy the new one if its any good. If its not as good as this version, then I'll stick with the proven one.

Wait and see!

Visual Reality
09-05-2008, 03:42 AM
Don't worry guys, the new ones are almost sure to be more expensive.

Rooz
09-24-2008, 06:58 AM
Tokina join the fray...
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2008/Tokina/

Tokina's stand is home to a broad range of their lenses, including a new wide-rangeing zoom and the company's first lens with built-in AF motor for Nikon users.
The interesting 16.5-135mm F3.5-5.6 will be available in Nikon and Canon mounts for APS-C DSLRs. Meanwhile the popular 12-24mm F4 gains becomes the first to gain an AF motor in its Nikon mount variant, allowing autofocus on the Nikon D40, D40X and D60. The technology will be rolled out over all lenses in the coming years, the company says.
Pictures from the Tokina stand

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2008/Tokina/DSC_1134-001.jpg (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2008/Tokina/DSC_1134.jpg)http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2008/Tokina/DSC_1138-001.jpg (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2008/Tokina/DSC_1138.jpg)SD 12-24mm F4 (IF) DX II with AF motor for Nikonhttp://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2008/Tokina/DSC_1139-001.jpg (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2008/Tokina/DSC_1139.jpg)http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2008/Tokina/DSC_1142-001.jpg (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2008/Tokina/DSC_1142.jpg)

K1W1
09-24-2008, 07:14 AM
So what does this mean?
Are you trading the Nikkor for a new Tokina already?

Rooz
09-24-2008, 01:57 PM
well apart from hapy days for the d40/60/90 crowd...it also means that there is a long term commitment, (note tokinas comment tht they will be updating their lens' over the next few YEARS !), to in-lens AF motors from non-OEM companies, so...the d95 wil not have an AF motor.

my prediction of Nikon in 2 years will look like this, (obviously updated existing cams). imo, no DX camera will have a the AF motor.

DX - consumer line up - no FM
d60x
d90
d500 (d300 replacement)

FX - enthusiast to pro
d700 (entry FX)
D3 (pro PJ/ sports)
D3x (pro 21mp landscape/ studio)

MX studio pro
d4mx (48mp)

Visual Reality
09-24-2008, 06:29 PM
Err, D500? What about D400?

And Tamron has had an AF motor in their 17-50 for months now...since this spring/summer, so it's a little late to announce it now.

mugsisme
09-25-2008, 10:21 AM
That is good news. Hmm, maybe I should keep my D40??? Nah.

I thought that the Tokina lenses were not so great.

erichlund
09-25-2008, 12:42 PM
Third party lenses can be hit and miss (but, then, so can Nikkors). Tokina doesn't make as many lenses as Tamron and Sigma, but most are pretty well made. The Tokina super wide 12-24 is built like a tank and has image quality on par with the Nikkor 12-24. Assuming they keep the optical formula the same, the updated lens should be a winner.