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Aldor88
08-06-2008, 10:41 AM
We all like these, dont try to deny it rumours are fun :).

I'll start with the biggest rumour atm...drumdroll...the D90. Tom hogan has released some specs, no big suprices except for he ability to record HD video :confused:. Sounds wierd to me but thinking about it i wouldnt mind to have a video feature availible, I wonder about the quality you'd get by using pro
lenses.
Tom also talks about a new lens, the 18-105VR.

So what is a D90? Well, a 12mp, ~4.5 fps DSLR, basically. On paper those seem like modest boosts from the D80. In practice, they are a distinct notch forward in performance. The big news, however, is that Live View now has a twist that other DSLRs can't currently claim: it can record vide
Link
http://bythom.com/

Theres a rumour that a new p&s will be released today(6th aug) too, dunno about this one guess we will see if this one turns out to be true.

So what do you think, video in a DSLR?

Turo
08-06-2008, 10:54 AM
So what do you think, video in a DSLR?

Sacrilegious!!!

TheWengler
08-06-2008, 11:11 AM
I don't even care about live view, I certainly wouldn't care about video. I had my S3 for about a year and probably made 3 videos. Even then, it was only because I was bored. Rumors are fun though. :D

Aldor88
08-06-2008, 11:25 AM
I'd love live view, really would help when using a tripod.

Camerajunkie
08-06-2008, 12:19 PM
I'm very interested in the D90, and I think I could talk H into it faster than the D300. Though I think he's secretly in love with the D300. He keeps sending me blogs of people who use them.

Or he's a complete sadist. ;)

K1W1
08-06-2008, 03:36 PM
I will have my full in depth rumour sourced hands off review complete with 10,000 fully analysed and catalogued test shots taken from around the world in the last two hours available here (http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40357) very shortly.

K1W1
08-06-2008, 04:29 PM
So if we assume that the 18-105 kit lens story is true where will buyers go for a second telephoto zoom?
Surely if the kit lens is 18-105 neither the 55-200 or 70-300 will make much sense to many buyers.

Aldor88
08-06-2008, 05:33 PM
The 18-105VR doesent sound smart to me either. Thay just released the 16-85VR, not to talk about the 18-55VR,55-200VR and 18-200VR all overlapping.

Camerajunkie
08-06-2008, 05:53 PM
I will have my full in depth rumour sourced hands off review complete with 10,000 fully analysed and catalogued test shots taken from around the world in the last two hours available here very shortly.


It looks like a link, but it's not acting like a link. How dare you tease me so?!?!

K1W1
08-06-2008, 07:46 PM
It looks like a link, but it's not acting like a link. How dare you tease me so?!?!

Point taken. I edited it so the link works. :D

e_dawg
08-06-2008, 07:53 PM
I will have my full in depth rumour sourced hands off review complete with 10,000 fully analysed and catalogued test shots taken from around the world in the last two hours available here (http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40357) very shortly.

LOL... Somehow, it never gets old ;)

Camerajunkie
08-06-2008, 08:28 PM
Point taken. I edited it so the link works. :D

God, I need an idiot shirt. :o

e_dawg
08-06-2008, 11:15 PM
It was more an inside joke, CJ. It wasn't meant to be a joke on you, if that's what you were thinking?

Rooz
08-06-2008, 11:21 PM
The 18-105VR doesent sound smart to me either. Thay just released the 16-85VR, not to talk about the 18-55VR,55-200VR and 18-200VR all overlapping.

the 16-85 is supposed to be a cut above those optically. i think the 18-105VR sounds like a nice idea. although it would make more sense if it was an FX lens to replace the 24-120VR FX lens...i suspct that will be upgraded shortly which means there will be another lens in that sorta range.

K1W1
08-06-2008, 11:37 PM
It was more an inside joke, CJ. It wasn't meant to be a joke on you, if that's what you were thinking?

Yes that is correct. There is no way I was trying to embarrass or upset you.

BTW: Anybody looked at the new Nikons on this page (http://www.dcresource.com/) (which just happens to be the front page of this site)? The New P6000 looks sort of interesting if Nikon have finally got their act together with P&S cameras it may be worth a look.

britkev
08-07-2008, 01:47 AM
The 18-105VR doesent sound smart to me either. Thay just released the 16-85VR, not to talk about the 18-55VR,55-200VR and 18-200VR all overlapping.

Nothing wrong with owning lenses that overlap... I'm currently agonizing over what to buy to upgrade my 18-55mm and complement my 70-300VR. I'm torn between the 18-135 and the 16-85. The 16-85 seems like the best choice but I don't feel it represents good value for money - for the asking price I'd like at least a stop faster, I regard VR as nice to have but not essential at that focal length. I'm not a fan of the concept of the 18-200... strikes me as too much of a Swiss Army knife. The 18-135 does of course overlap significantly with my 70-300, but I see no problem with that: when I 'm in a situation where I anticipate most of my shots to be wide-angle it's clearly much quicker to zoom in to 135mm for that sudden unexpected opportunity of a close up than it is to change lenses... and vice-versa when I'm expecting to be shooting at 300mm most of the time pullling out to 70 gives a chance of getting the shot that would be gone by the time I've swapped down.

Turn
08-07-2008, 02:28 AM
Sacrilegious!!!

I thought you were me for a second..

impressive..

but I want to see the 5D successor...like seriously Canon

K1W1
08-07-2008, 06:10 AM
Notice the round buttons with the ok in the centre of the four way controller.

http://www.dcresource.com/images/news/nikon_080708/P6000_back.jpg

Thom Hogan is suggesting that the D90 will have similar buttons. :D

imagesbyjudd
08-07-2008, 06:44 AM
If Nikon is listening, how about 18 - 200 vr fx 2.8 under 2,000. Oh and I want one in dark green, getting bored with black. Just kidding, but would be very happy with that under 2k price.

e_dawg
08-07-2008, 06:53 AM
The 18-105VR doesent sound smart to me either. Thay just released the 16-85VR, not to talk about the 18-55VR,55-200VR and 18-200VR all overlapping.

I think it's basically here as a replacement for the defunct 18-70 and 18-135 lenses -- that is, a long standard zoom that's neither too short like the kit lenses nor a superzoom like the 18-200/VR. It may be "just right" for those looking for an affordable upgrade or wanting a deluxe kit. It's also for those who think the 16-85/VR is "not worth it for such little reach" to paraphrase the general sentiment around here. It will probably be priced between the 18-55/VR and the 16-85/VR, and will give reach-conscious enthusiasts a modestly priced upgrade option.

e_dawg
08-07-2008, 06:56 AM
BTW: Anybody looked at the new Nikons on this page (http://www.dcresource.com/) (which just happens to be the front page of this site)? The New P6000 looks sort of interesting if Nikon have finally got their act together with P&S cameras it may be worth a look.

13.5 effective megapixel CCD? 14.5 MP on the S710? Up to 12,800 ISO on the S710? And all probably on 1/1.7" sensors? Arrggghhh! Can you say noise city? Stop the insanity!

Turo
08-07-2008, 07:04 AM
I thought you were me for a second..


I know, I've had that mixup once or twice before since our names are so similar!

Aldor88
08-07-2008, 07:27 AM
Looks like the P&S rumours was true, I know nothing about the P&S game other than that canon owns the market there. Nikon gonna step it up or is this just a standard upgrade?

Paradox
08-07-2008, 10:32 AM
13.5 effective megapixel CCD? 14.5 MP on the S710? Up to 12,800 ISO on the S710? And all probably on 1/1.7" sensors? Arrggghhh! Can you say noise city? Stop the insanity!

Do you reckon we should start a leaflet campaign to educate buyers that more megapixels and higher ISOs are just being used to manipulate them and swindle their money off the competition, and in fact degrade the image in many cases? It's a long shot but it might give the manufacturers something to think about. :p

Camerajunkie
08-07-2008, 11:36 AM
Yes that is correct. There is no way I was trying to embarrass or upset you.



I didn't figure it was aimed at me, just that I provided a wonderful opportunity.

It takes a lot more than that to piss me off.

Though I'm not so sure I'll be clicking links of yours in the future. :p

K1W1
08-07-2008, 03:13 PM
13.5 effective megapixel CCD? 14.5 MP on the S710? Up to 12,800 ISO on the S710? And all probably on 1/1.7" sensors? Arrggghhh! Can you say noise city? Stop the insanity!


Yes but there is a full magnesium body, inbuilt GPS to geocode images, RAW support (albeit not .NEF) AND the ability to control one group of wireless flashes.
This could be an ideal travel camera if the image quality is any good. For me it would be great for use on the bike.

Screenclutter
08-08-2008, 07:04 PM
If Nikon is listening, how about 18 - 200 vr fx 2.8 under 2,000. Oh and I want one in dark green, getting bored with black. Just kidding, but would be very happy with that under 2k price.

Wouldn't this be a rather big and heavy lens?

Aldor88
08-08-2008, 08:48 PM
http://www.nikonrumors.com/

First d90 picture? looks real to me.

Oh and doesent that AF/M switch on the body mean it has a built in motor? something some claimed the D90 would lack.

K1W1
08-08-2008, 10:21 PM
First d90 picture? looks real to me.

Thom Hogan mentioned photos floating around the Internet.
The HDMI and Audio outputs and the microphone tie in with the claimed video capabilities and the GPS socket I guess is logical based on the P6000 info from earlier this week.
I think it's a little early for the D90 to do away with the in camera focus motor maybe the next version but not yet (I hope).

Camerajunkie
08-09-2008, 09:06 AM
I hope they keep the internal motor. For now. Til I get better.

Visual Reality
08-09-2008, 09:19 AM
I wonder then if this 12MP sensor is CCD or CMOS...please say CMOS...imagine the video quality. My S3 was horrible with noise during video, indoor or out, if there was anything resembling a shadow.

Aldor88
08-11-2008, 03:08 PM
http://nikonrumors.com/ reports rumours of a new 50mm/f1.4 prime and also has some "reliable" info about the D90 price, 1299$ with the 18-105 VR lens.

Nothing I'd trust but rumours are fun, right? :)

K1W1
08-11-2008, 04:26 PM
I just love the concept of a whole website dedicated to rumours about Nikon products.
I thought I spend too much time on the Internet, obviously I don't spend enough time on the Internet. :D

Camerajunkie
08-11-2008, 05:41 PM
I don't want it to be $1299. What will it be WITHOUT the lens, because I don't need that lens.

Visual Reality
08-12-2008, 07:38 PM
I don't want it to be $1299. What will it be WITHOUT the lens, because I don't need that lens.
I'd say $999-$1099 like the D80 was.

Rooz
08-13-2008, 05:55 AM
looks pretty solid now. thom hogan has been calling this for the best part of a month now anyway. http://www.engadget.com/tag/d90

happy now kiwi ?

btw: video recording ? dayum me.

craigyc
08-13-2008, 06:15 AM
I will be getting the d90! sounds like just the thing I have been waiting for!

Now lets just hope that it does not cost 1299 in the UK!

K1W1
08-13-2008, 06:20 AM
happy now kiwi ?

The jury is still out until the actual products are released IMO.
With the Aus$ heading south again prices will start rising soon so they had better pull finger and get the thing on the market so I decide.

I'm not sure I want to be the first kid on the block with a DSLR that records video that's really something I would have expected from the fairy winged camp or the TV camera company. :D