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hankbeblazin
09-23-2007, 12:45 AM
hey everyone heres my first concert photos with the 50mm f/1.8

let me know what you think, i was timid my first time around so i used a flash it was ok for me to there it was small, next time i'm not going to it takes away from the lighting and adds too many shadows but here we go, live and learn

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1334/1426973148_4c09291705_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1162/1426108145_ef5bac0f38_b.jpg

TNB
09-23-2007, 01:53 AM
I try not to use a flash at any concert/play production even if allowed. Here's a sample pic I took tonight with my 70-200mm VR of Chubby Checker and his band, which played at a local car show.

http://image2-1.rcuniverse.com/e1/forum/upfiles/70716/Rw57451.jpg

K1W1
09-23-2007, 02:09 AM
Jeepers Chubby Checker looks like a walking example of some fine plastic surgery. :):)

TheObiJuan
09-23-2007, 05:16 AM
It seem as if the only light on stage came from your flash.
What mode did you shoot in?

I shot a band a few years back, my first gig, and used a strobe + diffuser manually exposed.
I got really good results.
Depending on the aperture I could control how much ambient light I let in.
Sometimes you want to isolate a band member from all of the lights and surrounding equipment.
Also shot with a 50mm f/1.8.
http://www.styleandspeed.com/theobijuan/pics/beast1.jpg

I guarantee next time you shoot a band it will be easier and what not. ;)

hankbeblazin
09-23-2007, 11:06 AM
i hate using a flash believe me but i was timid, scared to get too close, only towards the end was i really getting into it. the flash was allowed because i know the people but i still didnt like using it. the next one i am taking pictures of is this friday and i'm not going to use a flash.

from where i was standing the shutter speed was 20 or 30 and it kept blurring but looking at other pics thats supposed to be a good thing lol. its a very small place (an old fire house) with limited lights. next time i'm going to get up close and just take them and see how it goes.

that band was a punk band and they move around alot like i said this was my first time ever at concert photography so i had no clue what i was doing. now i have a better understanding.

fionndruinne
09-23-2007, 12:49 PM
If you're using flash, use fill flash. The background will look somewhat better. I'd think the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 would be great for concerts, if you can get close.

r3g
09-23-2007, 01:23 PM
or the Sigma 50-150mm f/2.8 if you cant get that close.

XaiLo
09-23-2007, 07:06 PM
Hank,

Here's a tip, I hope it helps you out. I take a lot of people and speaker shots (human type) what's helped me the most is anticipating what they are going to do then get the best shot I can within the confines of the enviornment and people. What I mean is basically turning a negative into a positive, try to be creative with what they are giving you. hth

hankbeblazin
09-23-2007, 09:50 PM
Hank,

Here's a tip, I hope it helps you out. I take a lot of people and speaker shots (human type) what's helped me the most is anticipating what they are going to do then get the best shot I can within the confines of the enviornment and people. What I mean is basically turning a negative into a positive, try to be creative with what they are giving you. hth


thats what i plan on doing this friday. just take pictures and see what happens

XaiLo
09-23-2007, 10:03 PM
Cool, happy shooting. :)

hankbeblazin
09-29-2007, 10:17 PM
alright heres round 2 i did alot better with getting closer and no flash i think

let me know what you think....1/25 a second 800 ISO 50mm f1.8

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1046/1460692155_6597cf0aef.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1202/1460682417_a25e4aef90.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1073/1461540958_fbe9089f12.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1211/1460685101_fc43d2c9ec.jpg

dxrocnxj
09-29-2007, 10:53 PM
for concerts, i just bought the sb600 and it all comes out great.
i posted these in my own thread.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z53/dxrocnxj/Suicide%20Silence/DSC_0197.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z53/dxrocnxj/Suicide%20Silence/DSC_0191.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z53/dxrocnxj/See%20You%20Next%20Tuesday/DSC_0149.jpg

r3g
09-29-2007, 11:02 PM
Those are some damn good pictures.. Has the band seen them?

hankbeblazin
09-29-2007, 11:11 PM
Those are some damn good pictures.. Has the band seen them?

who? me or the other guy

Rooz
09-30-2007, 01:42 AM
alright heres round 2 i did alot better with getting closer and no flash i think

let me know what you think....1/25 a second 800 ISO 50mm f1.8

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1046/1460692155_6597cf0aef.jpg



http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1073/1461540958_fbe9089f12.jpg



i really like these 2. especially the cello one.
great mood and the lighting in #2 is sublime.

hankbeblazin
09-30-2007, 03:58 AM
thank you rooz...so better than flash huh

Rooz
09-30-2007, 04:23 AM
depends on the circumstances and feel you want to create. in your situation you can use a slower SS and hi iso's cos the band is a slow style so you can capture the moment well. not to mention that the mood lends itself to ambient light so perfectly suited to how you took it imo.

the band dylan is taking pics of is just a LITTLE different. :p there was no way on earth dylan could have done that shoot without flash. no only couldn;t he have done it but the sharp detail and contrast again adds to the frantic mood. you can feel the energy from the pics.

it does make me chuckle that you have both taken outstanding concert pics with what is supposed to be a crap camera. every time you guys ull these shots out of the d40 it just makes me laugh my ass off at the critics. there are guys with kits worth 5 times that who haven't taken photos as good.

e_dawg
09-30-2007, 04:36 AM
Good pics, but I would have liked you to try flash in some of these. Flash makes good pics great if you do it right! (slow shutter speed, significant negative FEC, etc)

hankbeblazin
09-30-2007, 04:42 AM
cool i'll post pics from weekend 3 next weekend. the gallery is putting on a 1920's style carnival type thing. i've been waiting for this for a month because its going to be amazing with lighting and burlesque dancers and freak shows and tarot card readers....i cant wait

rawpaw18
09-30-2007, 04:58 AM
Sounds like fun Hank.
There are three ways to shoot, all ambient, all flash or a combo of flash and ambient. Like said earlier if done right (easier said than done) you can not hardly tell. It could help freeze your subjects or allow for more dof. You could try shooting different lighting styles, if it is feasible at the same venue, to see which one works for you best.

hankbeblazin
09-30-2007, 01:36 PM
thanks rawpaw im going to have to figure out how to get the ambient and flash to work together. i just got the SB-600, i'm going to take a wild guess and sayu you have to use manual mode on it so you can stop down the power of the flash to get both sources of light?

e_dawg
09-30-2007, 02:29 PM
You can use i-TTL auto flash, but use negative flash exp compensation (-1 EV, at least) and a slow shutter speed and experiment. It's all about balancing the relative contributions of flash and ambient light. The main factors that affect this balance are:

1. Distance from subject. Flash becomes much more powerful the closer you are to your subject. Nikon's i-TTL does a decent job of compensating for this, but it can only do so much. If you're closer than 3-4 ft at high ISO and large aperture, you could get that dreaded blue-white flash roasting. Shoot a little further from your subject and it could make a noticeable difference.

2. Shutter speed. The slower your shutter speed, the less flash contributes to the overall exposure and the more ambient light does. Slow sync your flash (using shutter priority automatically does this) and use 1/15 to 1/30 sec as opposed to the regular 1/60 flash sync, which is the typical shutter speed setting with flash (and a recipe for flash-dominant pics).

3. Difference in characteristics of flash light output vs ambient light. The flash is more noticeable if the light that comes out of it is considerably harsher, less diffused, and colder than ambient light (which it normally is). Typical indoor lighting is dim incandescent. Stage lighting is probably on the warm side unless they're going for that eerie bluish effect. Use a diffuser like the Gary Fong Whale Tail or Lightsphere to soften the light and use gels to warm up the colour temperature of your flash closer to the ambient light source. The SB-800 comes with a gel filter kit with amber and magenta gels (to match incandescent and fluorescent lighting). You can easily get an amber gel to put on your SB-600 or buy the Nikon kit separately.

4. The flash exposure compensation setting, obviously

XaiLo
10-10-2007, 09:55 PM
Can I join in? Rooz, the only thing worse than a D40 is a D40 with a SB_400 flash...:rolleyes:... lol...:D

http://www.designsbyxailo.com/thepics/2007/10_oct/attic1.jpg



http://www.designsbyxailo.com/thepics/2007/10_oct/attic2.jpg



http://www.designsbyxailo.com/thepics/2007/10_oct/attic3.jpg

hankbeblazin
10-10-2007, 11:19 PM
the second one is awesome i like it, nice and crisp

sure, we can make this a concert page hehe.

im getting better with every one

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2047/1508069626_f7043119aa.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2345/1507207049_d06944bd3e.jpg

this girl is really really good check her out at

http://www.cdbaby.com/cesca play some of her music she has an amazing voice

and another

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2056/1508661226_d5dc6276da_b.jpg

rawpaw18
10-11-2007, 04:42 AM
Hank those are looking really great, the last one though is fantastic. Lot to look at and great use of lighting, well done.

Rooz
10-11-2007, 05:43 AM
great shots harry. :D

e_dawg
10-11-2007, 09:47 AM
Wow, you're turning into a professional concert photog now! What settings did you use?

hankbeblazin
10-11-2007, 12:55 PM
those are all with the 50mm 1.8d, i told someone else who had a d40 you'll get alot faster with the manual focus


all no flash

i believe the top ones were 800 iso, 1/30th a second

the last one is 200iso (i forgot i had it on because i was taking flash pictures in the upstairs gallery) i think still 1/30....they had alot of light on them so it made it easier.

i set my camera to be able to use auto ISO when i'm in dark situations last night so i dont have to keep switching the iso

so when i turn on auto iso, the max iso it'll go to is 1600, and will only go that high if its under 1/15th a second....never knew it had that feature...everyone here hates ken rockwell but i think he's pretty informative. thats where i learned that from. i tested it out. works really well. otherwise i leave it off until i'm in the dark

rawpaw18
10-11-2007, 08:14 PM
great shots harry. :D

Anybody heard from Phil lately, I have not seen him around for a while

Man could he take some concert photos!