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rgen
07-25-2007, 09:28 AM
Hello

I started in the DSLR world for a few months now. I have a D70s. I have been looking at the Sigma 18-50 F2.8 MACRO. Upon browsing the sigma site, I noticed they have released the HSM version of this lens.

The question is "will HSM help in terms of focusing". Will it be faster than the regular version. I know my D70s will focus on either but I am just curious.

thanks

here is the link. http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/070725_1850_1770_na.htm

aparmley
07-25-2007, 10:17 AM
Hello

I started in the DSLR world for a few months now. I have a D70s. I have been looking at the Sigma 18-50 F2.8 MACRO. Upon browsing the sigma site, I noticed they have released the HSM version of this lens.

The question is "will HSM help in terms of focusing". Will it be faster than the regular version. I know my D70s will focus on either but I am just curious.

thanks

here is the link. http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/070725_1850_1770_na.htm

Well, we all were waiting for it - This is great news for D40/D40X owners or those on the fence re: the purchase of a camera that requires ASM/HSM motors for AF. . .

"...18-50mm F2.8 EX DC MACRO HSM, allowing autofocus with all Nikon DSLR cameras (inculding the D40 and D40x)... "

To answer your question rgen - you should see an improvement in AF speed, I don't know how zippy the non HSM motor is but on paper (in theory) there should be a noticable improvement.

Kellie
07-25-2007, 10:23 AM
Very cool!! So much for no fast kit lens focal length equivalents for the D40.

VTEC_EATER
07-25-2007, 11:47 AM
Well, Ill be damned. An HSM motor would be a nice thing for this lens as it is a little noisy while focusing. However, since I already own the regular "Macro" version of this lens, I will not look into purchasing the new HSM series. Instead, I will, as always, hold onto the idea of Nikon coming out with a VR version of the 17-55 F/2.8. I know I could use VR more than an HSM motor on this particular lens.

K1W1
07-25-2007, 06:10 PM
Instead, I will, as always, hold onto the idea of Nikon coming out with a VR version of the 17-55 F/2.8. I know I could use VR more than an HSM motor on this particular lens.

Strictly speaking any Nikon VR version would be HSM as well (in Nikon terms AF-S) anyway so you would get a hamburger with the lot. :)

VTEC_EATER
07-25-2007, 06:45 PM
Word up.

But its just a pipe dream. If Nikon were to come out with the 17-55 VR, it would undoubtedly be $1500. Thats pretty damn expensive, especially when the Canon counterpart is $1000, and most other DSLR manufacturers have IS/OS/VR built into the bodies, making their equivalent lenses much less as well.

K1W1
07-25-2007, 10:39 PM
Word up.

But its just a pipe dream. If Nikon were to come out with the 17-55 VR, it would undoubtedly be $1500.

Why $1500.00?
The new 70-300 and 55-200 VR lenses aren't even that much combined. If Nikon were ever to release a lens like that the pricing and features would be suited for the market the product was aimed at and if that market were consumer then the lens will be way less than $1500.00

XaiLo
07-25-2007, 10:50 PM
Why $1500.00?
The new 70-300 and 55-200 VR lenses aren't even that much combined. If Nikon were ever to release a lens like that the pricing and features would be suited for the market the product was aimed at and if that market were consumer then the lens will be way less than $1500.00

But they are also not a f/2.8 lens which Nikon will consider a high dollar lens.

Viky
07-26-2007, 01:10 AM
I was on the lookout to get the 18-50 f/2.8 macro for my XTi, now should i wait for the HSM version for Canon Mount or is it that since the Canon does not use in body autofocus motor, the canon mount version of this lens already has some sort of in lens AF motor like HSM?

Rooz
07-26-2007, 04:51 AM
well that pisses me the hell off. :mad: i just bought mine and the only complaint i had about it was that it was a little slow and noisy. HSM just fixed that. why couldn;t they have annouced this a month ago...pack of pricks. :mad:

the only thing that makes me laugh about this is that its one less argument that coldy will have about people buying a d40. :D this was really the ONLY lens gap which would have discouraged d40 owners cos the wide angle and the telephoto are covered. now the best 3rd party, fast aperture standard lens is HSM. the d40 is looking like a better and better option all the time.

VTEC_EATER
07-26-2007, 07:34 AM
Why $1500.00?
The new 70-300 and 55-200 VR lenses aren't even that much combined. If Nikon were ever to release a lens like that the pricing and features would be suited for the market the product was aimed at and if that market were consumer then the lens will be way less than $1500.00

Well, the 55-200 and 70-300 are both consumer grade lenses so they really shouldn't be compared with the 17-55. The regular 17-55 2.8 is already $1200 at B&H. The price increase for VR can be pretty substantial in pro grade lenses. It would probably require a complete redesign of the lenses, housing, and internal electronics. I would imagine it similar to the price increase of the 80-200 AFS vs 70-200 VR. Completely redesigned lens, and substantial price increase. Thats how I'm seeing it.

However, if Nikon does come out with a 17-55 VR, and it still has a metal body, for somewhere around $1200, I would probably pick it up.

jcon
07-26-2007, 08:10 AM
Are my eyes lying to me or did I just see someone from "the other side" come to us Nikon guys for advice? Oh boy, when the Canon side gets wind of this...... she's going to be shunned!!

LOL:D:p

Rooz
07-26-2007, 08:18 AM
viky, (is a he btw ;) ), is a nikonian at heart j. another lost canon soul stumbling his way thru the darkness in search of the light...seek and you shall find vik...seek and you shall find. :D

jcon
07-26-2007, 08:21 AM
viky, (is a he btw ;) ),


Oops!:o Sorry Viky! I knew I should've stayed in bed!:D

rgen
07-26-2007, 10:36 AM
Well, we all were waiting for it - This is great news for D40/D40X owners or those on the fence re: the purchase of a camera that requires ASM/HSM motors for AF. . .

"...18-50mm F2.8 EX DC MACRO HSM, allowing autofocus with all Nikon DSLR cameras (inculding the D40 and D40x)... "

To answer your question rgen - you should see an improvement in AF speed, I don't know how zippy the non HSM motor is but on paper (in theory) there should be a noticable improvement.

Thanks. I will wait longer for sure. hope the cost will not be much more.

tekriter
07-26-2007, 01:50 PM
Any idea when the HSM version of this lens hits the streets?

B&H doesn't show it yet.

GaryS
07-26-2007, 02:31 PM
This is great news for the D40!

Given that this new 18-50 is HSM only on Nikon, I would bet that it is a lower grade HSM that you normally find on Sigma's more expensive lenses. Its probably the same focus motor they use now in the Canon version, but reprogrammed to work with the Nikons. They would need to use the HSM moniker, because that is what Nikon has been telling everyone to look for.

Not that I think thats a bad thing, I love my Sigma 18-50 and it will be a great lens for the D40 people too!