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tim11
07-11-2007, 10:41 PM
I posted similar thread elsewhere but received poor response and I might run out of time... so nobody tells Jeff please. :p

Aim:
Wedding photography (mainly at reception).

Lenses:
- Nikkor 50mm F/1.4 or F1.8.
- Sigma 18-50, F/2.8.
- Sigma 50-150, F/2.8. That bulky lens!
- Any better alternatives? * with similar price tag.

I can only afford two lenses to start with. So which one do you think I should buy first? I will also buy flashlight SB800.

longroad
07-11-2007, 11:03 PM
You'll definitely want a wide angle for a wedding so 18mm minimum there.
I dont know the prices of those Sigma lenses so I cant recommend anything right now but you will want f2.8 at least so thats going to bring up the price for any lens you buy (besides the 50mm which is great, just depends if you want more zoom).

r3g
07-11-2007, 11:05 PM
Ask yourself this. Will the room be so dark that youll need the speed of the 50mm? If not F2.8 should be just fine and its not fixed so youd be able to take group pictures and such easier if you needed. Will the majority of your shots be portrait style and need shollow DOF? If so then the 50mm would prolly be the best lens to get.

longroad
07-12-2007, 12:50 AM
He'll still need a wide angle (or at least 18mm) if he is taking big family shots in confined spaces.
I was looking through the EXIF data from the photos from my brothers recent wedding and not surprsingly most shots were taken at under 18mm.

Rooz
07-12-2007, 03:51 AM
tim you won;t be taking pics of anything until you get your d80 brother ! go and get it and start playing around. :)

jcon
07-12-2007, 07:58 AM
For wedding photog you will want the 18-50. Hands down. The 50mm is a great lens but its too limited for this type of photography. For the formals you will need the wide angle of the the 18-50. I would also suggest, depending on where you are standing/sitting, you will want the medium tele for the ceremony and reception.

In your first post of this quesion I noticed you said you werent going to be serious about weddings? That this is just a one time thing?

If you had to pick 2 of the 3 lenses you listed for wedding photography it would be the 2 Sigmas. Remember, you more than likely wont be able to use flash during the ceremony.

I think youre heading in the right directioin, Tim!

FWIW, I use the 17-55 F2.8 and 70-200VR for my wedding shoots.

Rooz
07-12-2007, 08:20 AM
!

FWIW, I use the 17-55 F2.8 and 70-200VR for my wedding shoots.

show off ! :p

jcon
07-12-2007, 10:36 AM
show off ! :p

LMAO!!!!!:p

wh0128
07-12-2007, 06:30 PM
I agree with the buying both the Sigmas.

Before the wedding well in advance, maybe ask if there can or cannot be any flashes. If it doesn't matter then get the SB800 to help out with the lighting. If its outside during the day, then you won't have a hard time with lighting and blur.

tim11
07-12-2007, 11:29 PM
Thanks for the inputs everyone.


tim you won;t be taking pics of anything until you get your d80 brother ! go and get it and start playing around. :)
Are you telling me to get the body and no lens? How does that work?
I don't want the kit lens. I am comfortable enough with any camera anyone throw at me (not literally!) and I have used D70s and D80 from friends and relatives. I have experimented enough with FZ20 for all there is to try out and so I'm ready for the real thing.



In your first post of this quesion I noticed you said you werent going to be serious about weddings? That this is just a one time thing?
.....
It depends. If there is a market and how I can fit in to it then it won't be a one off thing. But if the lenses are good enough for such events it will be good enough for almost anything; right? Save long telephoto such as sports...
If this is one off thing, would you recommend different sets of lenses?

I find that Sigma 50-150 is AUD$900 cheapest and many shops sell well over $1000 mark.
So... is there any alternatives? If I buy SB800, do I still need f/2.8?

longroad
07-12-2007, 11:39 PM
Are you telling me to get the body and no lens? How does that work?


He's telling you to buy the camera asap so you can start taking pictures :D

jcon
07-13-2007, 12:09 AM
Thanks for the inputs everyone.





It depends. If there is a market and how I can fit in to it then it won't be a one off thing. But if the lenses are good enough for such events it will be good enough for almost anything; right? Save long telephoto such as sports...
If this is one off thing, would you recommend different sets of lenses?

I find that Sigma 50-150 is AUD$900 cheapest and many shops sell well over $1000 mark.
So... is there any alternatives? If I buy SB800, do I still need f/2.8?



There is ALWAYS a market for wedding photographers!

The Sigma 18-50 is good enough, thats what I used til I was able to upgrade the the lens I currently use.

You will still want AND need a flash, even if you have fast glass, and vice versa.

The lenses you will want eventually if you become a full fledged wedding photog are the 17-55 F2.8 and the 70-200VR F2.8. The 85mm would be nice too, but its expensive and to me, more of a studio lens. I think you have a great starting point Tim.

Rooz
07-13-2007, 01:57 AM
He's telling you to buy the camera asap so you can start taking pictures :D

correct. not sure what the point is of trying to get everything in one go. get your "starter kit" then build on it with your flash and other lens' in due time.

tim, you will continue to frustrate and confuse yourself until you take the plunge. it is safe to say that the overwhelming majority of people concur that the Sigma 18-50mm is a necessity for your purposes. (unless you are considering forking out for the nikkor @ $2k).

so, my advice to you is get the cam and the ONE lens becasue they are no brainers. you can work on the other lens' for your line up in due time. at least get the cam and start shooting and practicing. by doing that you will also get a feel for what other focal lengths are important to you by using it. everything else is just heresay really.

i mean this with all due respect...you say your ready but then you ask questions like "do i need f2.8 when i get a flash" tehn perhaps you need to spend more time understadnign this stuff ?? f2.8 is about DOF more than anything and that is only something you will truly appreciate and understand once you start playing. weddings are a tough gig and people have high expectations, if you think you can do any paid event straight away just cos you know about the fz and occasionally use a d70/80 then i think you are in for a shock.

like i said, i dont mean to offend at all. i look forward to you taking the plunge but i think you need to take stock and start building your experience with dslrs considering the line of work you want to head into.

tim11
07-13-2007, 07:03 AM
...f2.8 is about DOF more than anything and that is only something you will truly appreciate and understand once you start playing. weddings are a tough gig and people have high expectations, if you think you can do any paid event straight away just cos you know about the fz and occasionally use a d70/80 then i think you are in for a shock.

like i said, i dont mean to offend at all. i look forward to you taking the plunge but i think you need to take stock and start building your experience with dslrs considering the line of work you want to head into.

Rooz,
I want f/2.8 because I also like to shoot indoors without the flash and to me it's about DOF as well as brightness. I am under no false illusion; don't worry. Who cares about getting paid? I have a full time job. :D
I can't get what I want with the FZ and what I meant by saying the real thing is I'm ready for some real experiments with a DSLR but I just want to confirm if I have decent lens choice before I fork out a small fortune. What really worries me is I am over the starting budget of AUS$3000.

Rooz
07-13-2007, 07:09 AM
What really worries me is I am over the starting budget of AUS$3000.

ok, no worries mate. :) is there any reason you are trying to buy it all in one go as opposed to just the d80 and the sigma ?