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Blob
12-27-2005, 06:11 PM
I have been happy with the built-in flash on my D50 but I was wondering if I would notice a significant improvement using the SB600 instead? I assume the SB600 would recycle faster than the built-in flash. If the built-in is using the same iTTL metering system as the SB600 would the fill flash on the SB600 be more accurate and provide better lighting or would it just be able to light images at a greater distance?

I would appreciate any feedback on the SB600 vs the built-in flash on the D50. The current price of $189.00 is a significant investment for me during this "season of giving" and I would need some good reasons to get my wife to agree on the deal.

Thanks for the advice

Bob

Jason25
12-27-2005, 06:14 PM
It's a fantastic flash, well worth the money. Bouncing my 600's light gives much better results than the built-in flash. The results of bouncing alone is worth the cost of the flash :) I'm sure you'll get the same answer from most everyone. The recycle is very fast (I use 2500mAh rechargeables).

K1W1
12-27-2005, 10:42 PM
There is a good review of the SB600 on Ken Rockwells site plus a comparison between the SB600 and SB800 so you can see how the two devices stack up feature wise.

Esoterra
12-29-2005, 02:56 PM
I myself have just saved up $400 and I am thinking about getting the either 1)SB600 + lens or 2) a SB800 by iteself. I have a few questions.

1) is the SB800 that much better than the SB600 to warrant the 150 dollar difference?

2) When you say the bounce is worth it, how exactly do you bounce? (off the ceiling?) could you be very descriptive about how you obtain great lighting using the speed light. Im new to speed lights

3) What diffuser should I use with the speed light? I know there are a lot of options to choose from, so your feedback is much appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

Jason25
12-29-2005, 04:08 PM
1) I can't say, as I haven't used the 800, but I didn't think I'd need the 800 for now, so I saved myself a few bucks.

2) You tilt the flash head towards the ceiling to bounce (there's a marker that says 45 (45 degrees) on the flash, that's the one you want usually), or you could put a card on the flash, like the Lumiquest Pocket Bouncer, and point the flash head straight up.

3) The Sto-Fen omnibounce seems to be a popular choice, one that I'll probably go with.

D70FAN
12-29-2005, 04:20 PM
The SB800 would add Commander mode to the D50. I have a D70 so can use the in-camera speedlight in Commander mode and the SB800 (or 600) as a remote.

If you don't plan on using multi-iTTL remotes then the SB600 will work just fine on the D50. If you do want to use multiple remotes then you will probably want to get the SB800 as your main speedlight. You can then use SB600's as remotes.

Either way both the SB600 and SB800 are definately the way to go for an external flash on the D50, D70(s), D2X, and D200.

Jason25
12-29-2005, 04:23 PM
The SB800 would add Commander mode to the D50. I have a D70 so can use the in-camera speedlight in Commander mode and the SB800 (or 600) as a remote.

If you don't plan on using multi-iTTL remotes then the SB600 will work just fine on the D50. If you do want to use multiple remotes then you will probably want to get the SB800 as your main speedlight. You can then use SB600's as remotes.

Either way both the SB600 and SB800 are definately the way to go for an external flash on the D50, D70(s), D2X, and D200.
Yeah, I figured if I really wanted commander, I'd get the 800 later and already have the 600 to slave, or just get a body with commander mode :)

Esoterra
12-29-2005, 04:26 PM
I checked at B&H for a Sto-Fen omnibounce and they have oodles of listings. I found one for the SB600 but not a one for the SB800. Is it compatable with the SB800?

D70FAN
12-29-2005, 04:27 PM
Yeah, I figured if I really wanted commander, I'd get the 800 later and already have the 600 to slave, or just get a body with commander mode :)

There is a third option as you can get the SU800 Commander module that mounts on the hot-shoe separately...

http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=4&productNr=4794

Jason25
12-29-2005, 04:31 PM
There is a third option as you can get the SU800 Commander module that mounts on the hot-shoe separately...

http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=4&productNr=4794
Very true! For the price, it doesn't seem worth it to me though, when you can get a full flash unit for $100 more :) The SB800 has all the commander functions of the SU, right?