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photoguy0430
12-27-2005, 06:24 AM
I'm having a hard time deciding which kit lense to get. My plan is to get the camera & lense soon (within a month) and then in April get something with a little more zoom (5x-200 or 80-300). Right now I have a Fuji Finepix S3100 which is a decent camera but I want more of the manual features offered by DSLRs. The zoom on my fuji is 39-234mm so starting at 28mm (or 42mm) isn't far off from what I have now. I intend on using it for mostly outdoors, car shows, portraits, maybe some indoor sports, some concerts. Any advice would be appreciated. I understand these are just kit lenses and I shouldn't expect a miracle out of them. I'm just having a hard time deciding between the two.

Thanks in advance!

Jason25
12-27-2005, 10:08 AM
If you can stretch the budget a bit more, get the 18-70 DX lens (D70s kit lens). It's supposedly better than either one of those. I have the 28-80 with my D50 (got them for xmas). The 18-55 is the better choice of those two though, as it has a wide end, unlike the 28-80.

D70FAN
12-27-2005, 04:07 PM
Try the Sigma 18-125 DC as your everyday lens, with the Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 for low light situations. The SB800 (or 600) speedlight is also a must have.

I have been using this combo for over a year and it works fine for 99% of my shooting.

Some examples:

http://d70fan.smugmug.com/

Jason25
12-27-2005, 05:12 PM
Try the Sigma 18-125 DC as your everyday lens, with the Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 for low light situations. The SB800 (or 600) speedlight is also a must have.

I have been using this combo for over a year and it works fine for 99% of my shooting.

Some examples:

http://d70fan.smugmug.com/
Have you tried the 18-200?

neon83
01-09-2006, 04:05 PM
I've noticed the issue about whether the 28-80mm lens or the 18-55mm lens is a better choice for the D50 has been addressed several times, but I'm still confused.

I'm looking into buying a Nikon D50 camera, my only problem is figuring out which lens to buy for it. I currently have a Kodak point and shoot digital camera that has an add-on wide angle lens which I frequently use when traveling in order to capture monuments and buildings. The camera kit that I was looking at comes with a Nikkor AF 28-80mm lens. I asked the salesman at the camera store if I would be better off with a Nikkor DX 18-55mm lens since it would give me a wider angle for taking architectural and landscape photos. He told me that due to focal-length multiplier the DX 18mm is equivalent to the AF 28mm. I was under the impression that focal-length multiplier applied to all lenses, not just DX, but he told me that the AF 28-80mm would give me a true 28mm, and since it was $100 cheaper it would be a better deal. So now I'm completely confused! Which lens would would give me the capability of having a wide to normal range angle? I posted this in the Lens Guide thread but haven't received any response. Any info or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Francesca

Jason25
01-09-2006, 04:12 PM
I've noticed the issue about whether the 28-80mm lens or the 18-55mm lens is a better choice for the D50 has been addressed several times, but I'm still confused.

I'm looking into buying a Nikon D50 camera, my only problem is figuring out which lens to buy for it. I currently have a Kodak point and shoot digital camera that has an add-on wide angle lens which I frequently use when traveling in order to capture monuments and buildings. The camera kit that I was looking at comes with a Nikkor AF 28-80mm lens. I asked the salesman at the camera store if I would be better off with a Nikkor DX 18-55mm lens since it would give me a wider angle for taking architectural and landscape photos. He told me that due to focal-length multiplier the DX 18mm is equivalent to the AF 28mm. I was under the impression that focal-length multiplier applied to all lenses, not just DX, but he told me that the AF 28-80mm would give me a true 28mm, and since it was $100 cheaper it would be a better deal. So now I'm completely confused! Which lens would would give me the capability of having a wide to normal range angle? I posted this in the Lens Guide thread but haven't received any response. Any info or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Francesca
The salesman was wrong, or was lying. The 28-80 is a 42-120 on a digital. The crop factor applies to DX and non-DX lenses. Everyone seems to be trying to unload those 28-80 lenses lol. My fiance got me the 28-80 kit because it was the same price as the body only where she got it, which is quite understandable.

It's not a "bad" lens (for the money), it's just not ideal for digital bodies. It's a great range for a film body, though. Between the 18-55 and 28-80, get the 18-55.

D70FAN
01-09-2006, 06:29 PM
Have you tried the 18-200?

Jason,

Sorry for the really late answer. I have not tried the Nikkor 18-200 but I have tried the Sigma and Tamron. The Sigma 18-200 is almost as good as the 18-125. I didn't care for the Tamron as it stayed pretty soft until about f/8 where the Sigma did ok at f/5.6.

Your milage may varry so try both.;)

kanderson42
01-09-2006, 08:03 PM
The focal length multiplier applies to all nikon lenses, reguardless of the DX lable. 18mm=27mm, 28mm=42mm, etc.

K1W1
01-10-2006, 12:23 AM
He told me that due to focal-length multiplier the DX 18mm is equivalent to the AF 28mm. I was under the impression that focal-length multiplier applied to all lenses, not just DX, but he told me that the AF 28-80mm would give me a true 28mm, and since it was $100 cheaper it would be a better deal.

Moral of the story.
Do not under any circumstances buy from this person who has either lied to you or does not know what he is selling. Take your business somewhere else then ring his boss and explain what you have done and why you did it. It will help both him and the store in the long run.

IMO you need a 18mm lens for a DSLR. The difference between 18 and 28 is quite large in a tight situation and I'm certainly grateful to have that amount of wide angle regularly.
What you have at the tele end of the lens is dependant on your budget and needs George likes the Sigma 18-125, others like the kit 18-70, there is nothing wrong with the 18-55 kit lens for a lot of users, many (including me) are looking at or have purchased the 18-200 VR lens but the common number is always 18.

neon83
01-10-2006, 08:22 AM
Thanks for the info. You've been very helpful.


Francesca