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Old 06-20-2005, 07:57 PM
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After alot of research and deciding on what kind of new digital camera to go with, I am thinking of making the jump into Digital SLR.

Now the big question is how to decide between the following:

Canon 300D
Canon 350D
Nikon D50
Nikon D70

The biggest thing is I don't want to go overboard and spend on more features and all than is necessary, but then again, get the best value on the market.

Any and all suggestions/comments are welcome!
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Old 06-21-2005, 12:07 AM
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Well...

#1 question I'd ask myself first is which do I like the feel of more "bigger" stockier cameras or smaller cameras. The D70 is a "big" camera, the D50 from pics is slightly samller but still "stocky" the XT is deffinitly 'Small' which can pose as many problems as 'big' Have to like the feel of camera.

#2 question is will you be doing high ISO shooting. If so forget the nikon's. Sure they are great cameras but they don't have the ISO and image noise performance of the canon line.

#3 question is what do you intend on shooting and as such what lens would you buy? If your not going to get another lens but the "kit" and don't need high ISO the D70 is great camera (though I'd caution you about moire issues, it really turned me off but I'm a big "people" photography person) if your going to go and spend more then the lens choices are pretty = among the two.

Outside of that pretty much which you like. I'm a canon person but thats because ISO 100 on canons is amazing and I can't stand "image noise" in my pictures.

Tim
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:27 AM
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Hi Tim,

I don't want something "too" bulky which I consider the 300D to almost be on the border line. I went yesterday evening to look at the 300D, 350D, and Nikon D70. Of all of them, my favorite was the Canon 350D. Although I have owned both Canon and Nikon cameras, the Canon just seems to be someone simpler and better layed out.

However, I have been reading alot about the upcoming D50 and it sounds very promising and might have a slight edge over Canon.

I am not planning on doing primarily higher ISO photography, but definitely want the capability to cover everything that might be of interest. So I imagine that even going with the ISO would serve my purposes fine.

Can you elaborate on the "more issues" you mentioned with regards to the D70? As for the D50 or either Canon, I will likely go with the "kit" lens for now.

Overall, the Canon line impressed me the most, but would still like to consider the D50 once it is released. Any suggestions on which lens to go with?
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Old 06-21-2005, 06:02 AM
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Moire, it's a "rainbow" effect on patterns that is caused by the camera's low pass filter. It's nearly impossible to remove though there are filters out there to help with it.

I don't know if the D50 lowered the occurance of it but I took a sample picture at a local shop using D70 of salesman thatched shirt and the entire bottom portion which was sort of wavy had a rainbow hue going threw it.

Tim
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Old 06-21-2005, 06:08 AM
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http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/nik...s/dsc_0153.jpg

Check out that picture.

Look at all the windows, see the rainbow? = moire.

(well not same shot, but same building with 350d)

http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/can...s/img_3961.jpg


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Old 06-21-2005, 06:23 AM
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I'm also deciding but betwen Rebel XT and Pentax *Ist DS wich has the same sensor as Nikon D70 and its brothers. I'll do high ISO shooting most of the time so at first glance XT would be a logical choice. On the other hand DS has biger and brighter viewfinder (uses pentaprism instead of pentamiror) wich is also very desirable in low light conditions.
High ISO can't help if you can't really see what you're shooting.
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Old 06-21-2005, 06:40 AM
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I'm also deciding but betwen Rebel XT and Pentax *Ist DS wich has the same sensor as Nikon D70 and its brothers. I'll do high ISO shooting most of the time so at first glance XT would be a logical choice. On the other hand DS has biger and brighter viewfinder (uses pentaprism instead of pentamiror) wich is also very desirable in low light conditions.
High ISO can't help if you can't really see what you're shooting.
The XT/D350 has a max ISO of 1600 and - like the *ist can be used with AA batteries if you buy the optional handgrip.

Thus far I have had no problem seeing through the viewfinder in low light with my XT. I love the fact my XT is so light. I just wish the kit lens was a little better.
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Old 06-21-2005, 06:42 AM
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That is very interesting with the D70 as I had not noticed that; any idea if that has been corrected with the D70s or D50?


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http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/nik...s/dsc_0153.jpg

Check out that picture.

Look at all the windows, see the rainbow? = moire.

(well not same shot, but same building with 350d)

http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/can...s/img_3961.jpg


Tim
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Old 06-21-2005, 06:54 AM
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Did you even consider the Nikon D70 or upcoming D50?

How would you compare the Canon to the Pentax?


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The XT/D350 has a max ISO of 1600 and - like the *ist can be used with AA batteries if you buy the optional handgrip.

Thus far I have had no problem seeing through the viewfinder in low light with my XT. I love the fact my XT is so light. I just wish the kit lens was a little better.
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Old 06-21-2005, 07:22 AM
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After alot of research and deciding on what kind of new digital camera to go with, I am thinking of making the jump into Digital SLR.

Now the big question is how to decide between the following:

Canon 300D
Canon 350D
Nikon D50
Nikon D70

The biggest thing is I don't want to go overboard and spend on more features and all than is necessary, but then again, get the best value on the market.

Any and all suggestions/comments are welcome!
If you come to the Canon thread, for advice, then you will likely be advised on the one potential negative point of the Nikons...moire'. And ISO performance differences are very small. It's called "subtle poisoning". I have been using a D70 since it was introduced in March 2004 and have absolutely no complaints. In 8000+ photos have seen moire' only twice (easily removed in both cases).

The bottom line is: Would I buy another D70 (or D70s)? Absolutely. Would I consider a Canon instead? Only the 20D.
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