Nikon DSLRs = yuck!

Rhys · #1 05-13-2005, 12:52 PM

I just saw the photos on the gallery of the D70s and D2. Both exhibit purple/red fringing and moire. What more can I say aside from yuck? Canon seems to have Nikon so well beaten at digital cameras that Nikon should just vanish without any more whimpering.

Case in point:
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ni...w/DSC_0072.JPG
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ni...w/DSC_0034.JPG

Rex914 · #2 05-13-2005, 01:44 PM

What lens did he use? The kit lens doesn't work on the D2X so...

palmbook · #3 05-13-2005, 02:04 PM

Chromatic Aberration is due to lenses, not cameras.

Moire is not a serious problem, especially if you use RAW.

I don't know why people are so concerned about Moire. There are good plug-ins to remove Moire out there. Also Moire is exhibited under certain circumstances only, which are hard to find and the Moire is usually not so pronounced.

Rex914 · #4 05-13-2005, 03:03 PM

Now the plot thickens. He used a high end lens, the Nikon 17-55 F2.8G. I'm bewildered now too. Isn't that supposed to be a top of the line fast wide zoom?

D70FAN · #5 05-13-2005, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhys

I just saw the photos on the gallery of the D70s and D2. Both exhibit purple/red fringing and moire. What more can I say aside from yuck? Canon seems to have Nikon so well beaten at digital cameras that Nikon should just vanish without any more whimpering.

Case in point:

We, who have been using the D70 for the past 14 months, are getting very good results and I would expect that the D70s will do the same, so it may be a bit hard for us to understand your comments. As for the D2X? I don't know much about it, except what I read over on Rob Galbraith's site. A little out of my price range anyway, so not my concern.

Anyway, you haven't driven Nikon out of business yet, although you have tried

, and I bet that even as a future Canon dSLR owner you can appreciate the concept of lower prices due to competition. So I would think you would be rooting for Nikon to succeed...

Rex914 · #6 05-13-2005, 04:07 PM

I don't know about that. I have a hunch that he'll stick to Olympus. I'm sure that if they released the E-2, he'd immediately jump on that bandwagon.

This assumes he gets a DSLR. He may very well never get one because none will fit all his requirements.

Ant · #7 05-13-2005, 04:08 PM

That first picture is terrible, and it's not the camera. It's obviously the photographer who's screwed it up. The pillars are totally blown out, and I know from experience that you'd have to really try hard to get a bad exposure like that from a D70. It certainly wouldn't do that on it's own using matrix metering.

I blame a bad photographer rather than a bad camera.

Rex914 · #8 05-13-2005, 04:15 PM

I wouldn't go saying that. Jeff will come along and... *bonk*

You DO realize that he doesn't have the time to make sure every single shot is perfect, and you also realize that he won't drive out to Stanford (about a 1 hour drive from his place) just for one camera. I imagine that he brought all 4-5 cameras, went to the typical spots, and shot a good dozen shots with EACH camera.

Jeff wouldn't purposely botch the photos (as could be implied) especially considering that he got such a nice camera to review in the first place with such a great lens sent by Nikon I'm assuming. He has a busy schedule and can't make sure that every shot's perfect for every camera (which also forces him to retake shots if absolutely necessary). Who could on such a small LCD anyways?

I feel like I'm repeating myself. And no, this is nothing about companies. I'm just venting a little because a lot of people here just don't know what it's like to review cameras. There's a lot more to it than you think.

DownByFive · #9 05-13-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhys

I just saw the photos on the gallery of the D70s and D2. Both exhibit purple/red fringing and moire. What more can I say aside from yuck? Canon seems to have Nikon so well beaten at digital cameras that Nikon should just vanish without any more whimpering.

You're right, both of these cameras suck...both pictures suffer from severe pixelation at 6000% magnification and I barely have to squint and tilt my head before the moire becomes visible through my magnifying glass...I guess I'll just have to donate my D70 to Goodwill.

D70FAN · #10 05-13-2005, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rex914

Now the plot thickens. He used a high end lens, the Nikon 17-55 F2.8G. I'm bewildered now too. Isn't that supposed to be a top of the line fast wide zoom?

You might want to add that the 17-55 f2.8 was used on the D2X. The D70s shot is using the 18-70 kit lens. I take high contrast shots all the time and have never seen this problem even when I was using the 18-70 kit lens.

That said, I have been reviewing other pictures from the D2X and they look great. But from the looks of this picture, and the backfocus complaints that seem to be circulating, I think Nikon has some splainin' to do. You would think that with a super high profile pro camera they would have the backfocus adjusted to within a "gnats-ass".

Backfocus problems aren't unique to Nikon, but again...high profile. Seems that they might have rushed this one to market.