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Old 10-30-2004, 07:46 AM
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Anyone know of when the successor, maybe the S2 IS, is coming out?
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:07 AM
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Sorry, I don't.
But, as a wavering buyer, if I thought Canon would add a 2" LCD to the existing S1 IS, I would definitely wait for such a beast!
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:40 AM
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Anyone know of when the successor, maybe the S2 IS, is coming out?
If I was to guess, I'd say next February, at least.
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Old 10-30-2004, 06:01 PM
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If I was to guess, I'd say next February, at least.
There's not much to improve on the S1. My only thoughts are that it should have:

5 or 6 megapixels
Improved low-light focussing
Make use of the 4gb cards and allow 4gb VGA fine videos, possibly with the full-frame TV standard as well.

aside from that, I'm pretty happy with my S1 and see no reason to upgrade.
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Old 10-30-2004, 06:06 PM
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Really? I have been very disappointed. I sold my Canon G3 for the S1 IS and it was definitely a step down. Besides the zoom capability, there is not much more that has been satisfying.

Still cannot understand why Canon did not have a AF Illuminator and the camera constantly hunts when trying to focus.

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There's not much to improve on the S1. My only thoughts are that it should have:

5 or 6 megapixels
Improved low-light focussing
Make use of the 4gb cards and allow 4gb VGA fine videos, possibly with the full-frame TV standard as well.

aside from that, I'm pretty happy with my S1 and see no reason to upgrade.
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Old 10-30-2004, 07:09 PM
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There's not much to improve on the S1. My only thoughts are that it should have:

5 or 6 megapixels
Improved low-light focussing
Make use of the 4gb cards and allow 4gb VGA fine videos, possibly with the full-frame TV standard as well.

aside from that, I'm pretty happy with my S1 and see no reason to upgrade.
Hmm. Wait until you see the dreaded 'E18' error, that appears to affect ALL Canon digitals at some point. If you do a google search on 'Canon E18' you'll see tons of Canon ex-customers complaining about this. I'd just spent a LOT of time researching D-SLR's and decided on a PandS S1. The DAY I rec'd it, I tried to use the Canon lens adapter and BOTH the Professional Macro lens and the 2x zoom. On BOTH of them, whenever I tried to zoom out (less mm), I got this weird 'E18' error and the camera just completely locked up.

I spent four days on the phone with uncaring Canon tech support. Trust me. It was a nightmare. And if you do the search above, you'll see that there are a lot of people that have had the same experience. I have everything packed up (it spent about five total hours seeing the outside of the box), and plan on sending this defective piece of crap back to beachcamera.com, where I purchased it. Hopefully, they'll respond as their ratings state they will...refund me, help me decide on another camera (I've already decided on the Panasonic Lumix SZ10S), and I won't have to drag those people through the mud, and just contact my cc company to get my full refund.

But I'd be VERY worried if I owned a Canon. They're not built (obviously) to last. I'd never have known about this 'E18' error (which is essentially a stuck zoom), if it hadn't happened to me out of the box. It would've been nice if I'd have been able to find it discussed here, or in a couple of other forums and reviews I checked before buying it...but seeing as how Canon WASTED at least 12 hours of my life, trying to deny that this was a problem, then finally one tech guy admitted that it was...I plan on trying to inform as many consumers as possible of the inherent problems with the Canon Powershot S1 specifically, and the pathetic support of Canon in general.

This is a *really* bad camera. As someone who's been a photog for over 20 years, I've never had an experience like this one before. I still have my Nikon 850 with a bunch of lenses, but I need a digital these days.

So if anyone *does* buy the S1 after being warned here...and don't just believe me: go a google search as stated above and see for yourself...all I can say is I *tried* to warn ya...
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Old 10-30-2004, 07:42 PM
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I speak as somebody who's used SLRs since 1984 and digitals since 2001 during which I have used and owned several generations of digital cameras. I am very happy with my S1.
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Old 10-30-2004, 09:44 PM
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Hmm. Wait until you see the dreaded 'E18' error, that appears to affect ALL Canon digitals at some point. If you do a google search on 'Canon E18' you'll see tons of Canon ex-customers complaining about this. I'd just spent a LOT of time researching D-SLR's and decided on a PandS S1. The DAY I rec'd it, I tried to use the Canon lens adapter and BOTH the Professional Macro lens and the 2x zoom. On BOTH of them, whenever I tried to zoom out (less mm), I got this weird 'E18' error and the camera just completely locked up.

I spent four days on the phone with uncaring Canon tech support. Trust me. It was a nightmare. And if you do the search above, you'll see that there are a lot of people that have had the same experience. I have everything packed up (it spent about five total hours seeing the outside of the box), and plan on sending this defective piece of crap back to beachcamera.com, where I purchased it. Hopefully, they'll respond as their ratings state they will...refund me, help me decide on another camera (I've already decided on the Panasonic Lumix SZ10S), and I won't have to drag those people through the mud, and just contact my cc company to get my full refund.

But I'd be VERY worried if I owned a Canon. They're not built (obviously) to last. I'd never have known about this 'E18' error (which is essentially a stuck zoom), if it hadn't happened to me out of the box. It would've been nice if I'd have been able to find it discussed here, or in a couple of other forums and reviews I checked before buying it...but seeing as how Canon WASTED at least 12 hours of my life, trying to deny that this was a problem, then finally one tech guy admitted that it was...I plan on trying to inform as many consumers as possible of the inherent problems with the Canon Powershot S1 specifically, and the pathetic support of Canon in general.

This is a *really* bad camera. As someone who's been a photog for over 20 years, I've never had an experience like this one before. I still have my Nikon 850 with a bunch of lenses, but I need a digital these days.

So if anyone *does* buy the S1 after being warned here...and don't just believe me: go a google search as stated above and see for yourself...all I can say is I *tried* to warn ya...
To clarrify, the S1 IS is not a dSLR. Other than that you story is a bit of a stretch, but it does sound like you had a bad experience. Better luck on your next camera.
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Old 10-31-2004, 03:17 AM
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There's not much to improve on the S1.
Please could you give your opinion on the small 1.5" LCD?
Reports of it being almost impossible to see in bright sunlight are the most influential in putting me off purchase of what looks like a tremendous value S1 IS, but I haven't yet managed to lay hands on one for myself, to check.
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Old 10-31-2004, 05:10 AM
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Actually, it less of a concern of being able to see in the LCD, but more of a concern of the camera actually being able to take the picture and when, and if, it decides to, if there is much sharpness to the imagine.

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Rhys

Please could you give your opinion on the small 1.5" LCD?
Reports of it being almost impossible to see in bright sunlight are the most influential in putting me off purchase of what looks like a tremendous value S1 IS, but I haven't yet managed to lay hands on one for myself, to check.
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