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Old 12-20-2005, 08:35 AM
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Default Blue Snow With New FZ30

Received my new FZ30 and the sun is shining so I took some pics of snow of which I have a lot. Had 14" but some melted..

The pictures turned out very blue. Picture shown is taken in 'P' mode. The ones taken in 'Snow' scene are almost as blue. Very disappointed!!
Will have to play with white balance adjust. Then PP?

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Old 12-20-2005, 08:54 AM
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Your have an ID10t error which we have all had at one point , you probably didn't have your white balance set correctly. Set the white balance correctly and you can easily fix that blue contrast.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:01 AM
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lovelife complains about the blue tint and sets his camera to + 1 or more on the warm side. I do not see a blue cast, nor did I see a red cast on the FZ20 as some complain.

I asked Lovelife once if he thought it could be we use different filters and he said no but I am not so sure.

I will admit that at times and especially in a real bright situation such as your photo I see a blue cast thru the EVF but I meter again and the camera almost always corrects the WB or whatever cased the tint and the photo will turn out fine.

Maybe print the photo and see what the print looks like it could be a monitor problem ... I doubt it, but you never know.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:18 AM
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Default Blue Snow

Hi, It appears that you have the exposure correct. One thing you should do is shoot in one of the nonprogram modes (Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, or Manual) as this will give you more flexibility in making your exposures. From what I have read, when exposing for snow, sunny beach sand, etc. you add one stop, because the camera meter tries to make it a neutral gray. In the case of the blue cast, setting your white balance to "cloudy" should compensate. If you use Photoshop, in the filter menu go to the "photo filter" and choose a yellow. If you happen to shoot in RAW when you open your photo in Camera Raw you can also set the white balance there and be able to fine tune it. I hope this helps. I also have a FZ30 which I am extremely happy with.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:37 AM
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Default ID10t error?? What??

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Your have an ID10t error which we have all had at one point , you probably didn't have your white balance set correctly. Set the white balance correctly and you can easily fix that blue contrast.
Good Luck
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I have had a FZ20 for one year and did not come across blue as shown in pic.
I set WB to Sun, Auto, Mode to Snow, WB adjust to .2 red, .6 red, 1.0 red,2.0 red. More pic adjustments???

Filled up 512 card with same subject. Yes some came out better but not 'real' as of yet.

BTW What is ID10t error? That is new to me.

FZ30 takes sharp pictures with a TCON17. Haven't tried the 14B.

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Old 12-20-2005, 09:46 AM
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Hi, It appears that you have the exposure correct. One thing you should do is shoot in one of the nonprogram modes (Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, or Manual) as this will give you more flexibility in making your exposures. From what I have read, when exposing for snow, sunny beach sand, etc. you add one stop, because the camera meter tries to make it a neutral gray. In the case of the blue cast, setting your white balance to "cloudy" should compensate. If you use Photoshop, in the filter menu go to the "photo filter" and choose a yellow. If you happen to shoot in RAW when you open your photo in Camera Raw you can also set the white balance there and be able to fine tune it. I hope this helps. I also have a FZ30 which I am extremely happy with.
I usually do not shoot snow but that is what I have now. 'Like to take pics of birds'. Will try different modes. Have tried cloudy and various WB's to the red side. Shot in JPG and always use histogram. Have a lot of suggestions in this thread. Will try them all as I have the time. Haven't tried raw yet. Have PS Elements 2.

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Old 12-20-2005, 09:57 AM
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lovelife complains about the blue tint and sets his camera to + 1 or more on the warm side. I do not see a blue cast, nor did I see a red cast on the FZ20 as some complain. Have tried 2,1,.6,.2 on the warm Better but not "Real"

I asked Lovelife once if he thought it could be we use different filters and he said no but I am not so sure. Did not use any filter as my 55mm UV ring went with the 210 when I sold it.

I will admit that at times and especially in a real bright situation such as your photo I see a blue cast thru the EVF but I meter again and the camera almost always corrects the WB or whatever cased the tint and the photo will turn out fine. I have taken some 100 pics of the anti-deer-rabbit plant cage with different settings.

Maybe print the photo and see what the print looks like it could be a monitor problem ... I doubt it, but you never know.
I reset my monitor using Kodak's Evaluation Target and got a little less blue. How blue is the pic on your monitor? I did print part of the pic, 2 inches, and was still blue. Ordered an iP5000 which I understand has been shipped.

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Old 12-20-2005, 10:17 AM
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I don't have the FZ30, but one thing I tend to do when I am having White balance problems is I set the manual white balance to the location that is having problems. Since snow is white (or gray in the shade), what happens if you set the white balance right onto the blue area?

I am guessing that perhaps it would remove too much blue from the image, but I would probably give it a try.

I find that snowy scenes are not the easiest to shoot. I have a heck of a time with the coloring with my FZ15. In my case it isn't consistently blue, but it does seem to be white balance related. The best shots always come out when there is a nice deep blue sky in the picture. I find a polarizer helps me out sometimes too by cutting some glare (when that is a factor).

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Old 12-20-2005, 10:17 AM
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Its not very blue on my monitor Stan it does have a tint but , I could probably live with it.
Stan someone else said about the blue tint and said they used a skylight filter to correct it.

A skylight filter has an orange or pink tint.



I use Adobe gamma to set my monitor but I am not sure mine is dead on and I am not paying for a hardware calibration tool.
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:07 AM
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Its not very blue on my monitor Stan it does have a tint but , I could probably live with it. I get very blue. Printed out blue too.
Stan someone else said about the blue tint and said they used a skylight filter to correct it. Have a skylight filter but it's not a 55mm Need UV too
A skylight filter has an orange or pink tint.

I use Adobe gamma to set my monitor but I am not sure mine is dead on and I am not paying for a hardware calibration tool.
Will try that.

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