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  1. #1
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    Best Indoor Action Lens on a Budget

    Hi Everyone. Well, I've just come from taking about 150 shots at a ballroom dance competition using my Pentax *istDS with a Sigma 18-200mm lens. I took about 50 shots in a previous competition using the kit lens (18-55mm). From that first experience with the kit lens, I knew I needed a better zoom, so I purchased the Sigma 18-200mm. With the Sigma I have the needed zoom, and good enough speed on focus - but now it looks like I need a lens with better low-light sensitivity for indoor events. Basically, my pictures came out noisy - but with software noise reduction, it becomes acceptable.

    The more I use my Pentax, the more I discover some of it's strength and weaknesses. I've discovered that the Sport mode on the *istDS is no good for Action shots. I get better results when I use the Auto Pic mode. Unless, I'm doing something wrong with Sports mode, my pictures have an very orange tint which appears to be from poor lighting (I discovered this from trial and error). I've fiddled with auto-white balance and ISO settings. If anyone has any tips regarding action shots indoors - I sure could use some.

    Getting back to the real topic, can anyone suggest a lens for action shots with better light sensitivity than the Sigma 18-200mm?

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    Sorry for the delay... How much do you want to spend?
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    Joel - Canon 50d, EF16-35/2.8 Mk1, Σ 50/1.4, EF100/2.8 Macro, EF70-200/4 IS, 430EX II
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    How much do I want to spend?

    Perhaps I shouldn't have said on a budget. I suppose just give me a list of good indoor action lenses and I'll figure the rest out

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    If you want something that is bright and goes to 200mm then the best value for money (bright) lens would be the Sigma 70-200 2.8 EX
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    Joel - Canon 50d, EF16-35/2.8 Mk1, Σ 50/1.4, EF100/2.8 Macro, EF70-200/4 IS, 430EX II
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    If your photos are tinted, just use a quick pre-set custom WB. Orange/red comes from tungsten usually, so if there's a setting for that, use it.

    As for the lens, you want a fast telephoto as you have already suggested yourself. The Sigma mentioned above is a good choice and sets you back $800. That's really the only f/2.8 telephoto I can think of that's even affordable. The rest shoot into the thousands. Your other option is using a prime telephoto, but I'm not familiar at all with Pentax's line, so jeisner's going to have to take this one if you want more choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex914
    If your photos are tinted, just use a quick pre-set custom WB. Orange/red comes from tungsten usually, so if there's a setting for that, use it.
    Yeah there are preset settings for tungsten, or take a white card with you and use the manual WB to set the white balance exactly for the particular environment.

    so jeisner's going to have to take this one if you want more choices.
    Your looking at a lot of money for original Pentax bright telephoto, honestly you would be better off with the Sigma, unless money is easy to come by?
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    Joel - Canon 50d, EF16-35/2.8 Mk1, Σ 50/1.4, EF100/2.8 Macro, EF70-200/4 IS, 430EX II
    http://www.eisner.id.au

  7. #7
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    Sigma 28-105mm F2.8-4 ($120)

    I saw this Sigma lens on ebay. From the reviews on the internet, 50% say this is a very good lens (sharp, and fast) for the price and the other 50% say it's soft and noisy. Well this tells me, the quality control is bad, but if you get a good one - then what a bargain. I read the reviews of the lenses that were recommended, but I can't afford $700 and besides, the 28-200mm EX looks big and heavy.

    By the way, my initial post was incorrect in saying I used a Sigma 18-200mm, the lens I used is a Sigma 18-125mm.

    Wish me luck when it arrives - I'll keep you posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erwin
    I saw this Sigma lens on ebay. From the reviews on the internet, 50% say this is a very good lens (sharp, and fast) for the price and the other 50% say it's soft and noisy. Well this tells me, the quality control is bad, but if you get a good one - then what a bargain. I read the reviews of the lenses that were recommended, but I can't afford $700 and besides, the 28-200mm EX looks big and heavy.

    By the way, my initial post was incorrect in saying I used a Sigma 18-200mm, the lens I used is a Sigma 18-125mm.

    Wish me luck when it arrives - I'll keep you posted.
    Frankly Erwin-

    After dealing with another fraud who had posted on not one but two, or probably three websites about his so called digital camera problem, I have begun to wonder about your posts, no offence intended, and the real facts.
    may indeed be quite different, but I am at least suspect!

    Sarah Weber

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erwin
    I saw this Sigma lens on ebay. From the reviews on the internet, 50% say this is a very good lens (sharp, and fast) for the price and the other 50% say it's soft and noisy. Well this tells me, the quality control is bad, but if you get a good one - then what a bargain. I read the reviews of the lenses that were recommended, but I can't afford $700 and besides, the 28-200mm EX looks big and heavy.

    By the way, my initial post was incorrect in saying I used a Sigma 18-200mm, the lens I used is a Sigma 18-125mm.

    Wish me luck when it arrives - I'll keep you posted.
    This particular lens has had some major QC issues hence the $120 price tag. Even if you are lucky, don't you think it's a tad bit short for an indoor action lens? I keep thinking that indoor action = sports = distance, so a fast telephoto would be required. Correct me if I'm wrong though since you're the only one who knows what your own needs are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erwin
    I saw this Sigma lens on ebay. From the reviews on the internet, 50% say this is a very good lens (sharp, and fast) for the price and the other 50% say it's soft and noisy. Well this tells me, the quality control is bad, but if you get a good one - then what a bargain. I read the reviews of the lenses that were recommended, but I can't afford $700 and besides, the 28-200mm EX looks big and heavy.

    By the way, my initial post was incorrect in saying I used a Sigma 18-200mm, the lens I used is a Sigma 18-125mm.

    Wish me luck when it arrives - I'll keep you posted.
    Sorry I didn't know you wanted this price range... (and not constant 2.8)... If it turns out to be no good and you return it... (and for others) Pentax have a 28-105 3.2-4.5 which is $209 new (from bhphoto) and is very good quality...
    Last edited by jeisner; 05-16-2005 at 09:20 PM.
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    Joel - Canon 50d, EF16-35/2.8 Mk1, Σ 50/1.4, EF100/2.8 Macro, EF70-200/4 IS, 430EX II
    http://www.eisner.id.au

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