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  1. #151
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    Well, we know where you are supposed to be. Never been there so can only guess you are located to your plan.

    Looking forward to your photo posting.
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  2. #152
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    I'm not where I'm supposed to be.

    The area is now full of shale oil wellheads with plenty of oil workers so appears to be doing well financially at least. Seeing wells in these beautiful canyons that could otherwise be farmed (albeit at subsistence levels) feels like a pity.

    The countryside general would probably best be described as starvation country for farmers, it appears to be whatever the American equivalent of Australia's saltbush is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K1W1 View Post
    I still believe Americans have never quite gotten over prohibition.
    The thing that really used to piss me off in California was the supermarkets. You would rock up at the checkout with groceries and beer/wine and they would put the alcohol aside and ring all the groceries through THEN ask for your ID before they would run the alcohol through the scanners. Obviously it was standard procedure to ensure that if you were too young to buy alcohol they would still get you for the rest of the groceries but I found it stupid and infantile especially as the check out clerk was usually underage anyway.
    Not sure where you were, but has not been my experience in these parts (of CA). Generally, if there is any adult beverage at checkout, ID is requested up front, if you are looking particularly youthful. For me that was a few years ago, and even in my 30's being "carded" was appreciated with some humor.

    I think that we have long passed the prohibition mode. While there are still a few "dry" counties and cities, they have been that way since well before the 18th amendment (of the US Constitution). Note: Clerks handling alcohol are required to be 21 or over.
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  4. #154
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    I got the feeling it was the Mormon settlement of Utah that was the real driver here, when I bluntly asked if it was a Mormon thing the bloke at Hotel reception clammed up really fast (I think I have a blunt Aussie faux pas thing going on at times.

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  5. #155
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    DPR do your daughter a favour and be a good dad and buy her a decent camera strap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D70FAN View Post
    Not sure where you were, but has not been my experience in these parts (of CA).
    In that respect I'm talking about the Bay area in the early 1980s when I lived there. I was about 25 or 26 at the time. I wasn't saying that was today's experience. Nobody asked me for ID when I was there 18 months or so ago.

    As far as prohibition I stand by that. Whilst alcohol is widely available the drinking of alcohol in bars particularly still seems from my experience to be a rather seedy affair in many places.

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    DPR; When I was there in the early 60's there was quite a bit of Oil work going on and that is where my uncle was working. The entire area in Northwestern Colorado is best described as semi-desert, hot during the daytime and quite cold at night. From photographs I have seen of those parts of Aus. your description is about right except for the existence of the many canyons in Col. The only 'green' areas are those near the rivers which is where Rangley/Dinosaur is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K1W1 View Post
    As far as prohibition I stand by that. Whilst alcohol is widely available the drinking of alcohol in bars particularly still seems from my experience to be a rather seedy affair in many places.
    I'm sure that's true in many places around the world... even Australia.

    Note: Most people born here after 1970, or so, probably don't have a clue as to what the 18th and 21st amendment are, or for that matter, any after the first 2.

    Back to you DPR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dread Pirate Roberts View Post
    Photos added to the last two days
    Absolutely dazzler.
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    So today was supposed to be the first of the long haul days heading east but I got distracted by the beautiful Colorado Rocky Mountains (highway I70 East seems to run in the Colorado River Canyon). We had a few stops to look at the pretty river and unfortunately none to allow the driver adequate time to stare at or photograph the stunning cliffs.

    In the high mountain passes we still had snow (truthfully clean ice particles) so we stopped and gave the kids a couple hours playing in it. I grabbed a couple happy snaps for the family album but no decent photos. To get a decent shot I'd have had to walk up into the treeline and compose some angles. I tired it but even an Aussie walking into the snow covered mountain passes in shorts and t-shirt and sneakers feels a bit of a dill. A few times my shoes sunk a foot deep into the snow but the clincher that stopped me proceeding was when my right foot sunk about 2 feet through the snow into cold water, that's when I gave it up as for the committed photographer not the dad on an overland journey. Fellas you can stop laughing at my expense now.

    Drove a bit more then stopped by the Buffalo Bill Museum and saw his grave as a break from the car, it was an interesting side note but nothing noteworthy.

    We finally landed in Burlington Colorado at 6pm and took their last available room for the night ($150 pn +tax with a jacuzzi which the trouble & strife is about to drag me into). They had a tornado alert here yesterday but nothing today, it was interesting for my concerned wife. Funnily though we could see some piss week anvil type cloud formations one of which had a wimpy dust spiral heading up into it (much higher than a wirly-wirly in Aus) so even that was nice for us tourists to experience. The hotel doesn't have a tornado room but has "lockable doors on the lower story corridor" which is supposed to assure us. I hate to ask the bleeding obvious but how can you build in tornado alley without building a basement? My folks built one into their old home in Chicago specifically for this purpose and I can remember being made to shelter there after kindy frequently by my overly concerned mother).

    The scenery away from the Rocky's was mundane but better than I'd been led to expect by locals. Flat with no trees but green, so not too dissimilar to back home in early spring. In fact I'd say the whole days drive was analogous to the Hume Highway from Sydney to Melbourne (after it was upgraded to divided dual carriageway). The Rocky's were truly spectacular though and I'd never say that about that section of the Blue Mountains. Driving beside the mountain river that was running high with snow melt over rapids was spectacular and new to me.

    I've got two extra small dino museums on the I70 at Fick and Sternberg tomorrow which I intend to use to break our drive. I think this and the short drive and early finish today means I won't make it to the air force museum for memorial day but will be there Tuesday instead. Still the snow experience for the kidlets was precious and worthwhile in itself.

    Traffic on the roads despite Memorial long weekend was still excellent, I'll keep fingers crossed it stays that way. I'll change plans to avoid overnighting in Indy to avoid the race you warned me about.

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