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    Flash for the 20D

    I recently purchased the Canon 20D and I would like to know what other DC owners use for flashes? I would possibly like to start as a wedding photographer, so is something like a Speedlite 580EX absolutely necessary or would a lesser cost model suffice? I don't have a huge budget to spend on a flash, so if I could get away with something around $200 that would be preferable. In addition to a flash on the camera should I consider a slave flash, and if so any recomendations? Any Suggestions/Experiences will be much appreciated.
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    The 420 EX is a decent flash for $200. I've heard people recommending some 3rd party flashes although I have absolutely no experience with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktixx
    I recently purchased the Canon 20D and I would like to know what other DC owners use for flashes? I would possibly like to start as a wedding photographer, so is something like a Speedlite 580EX absolutely necessary or would a lesser cost model suffice? I don't have a huge budget to spend on a flash, so if I could get away with something around $200 that would be preferable. In addition to a flash on the camera should I consider a slave flash, and if so any recomendations? Any Suggestions/Experiences will be much appreciated.
    Ken
    You have already spent $1500+ for the 20D. Buying anything less than the 580EX would be a waste of that investment.

    I faced this dilema with my D70 and tried using my older Nikon Speedlights, and a Sunpack 383, before buying the SB800. The difference was dramatic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktixx
    I recently purchased the Canon 20D and I would like to know what other DC owners use for flashes? I would possibly like to start as a wedding photographer, so is something like a Speedlite 580EX absolutely necessary or would a lesser cost model suffice? I don't have a huge budget to spend on a flash, so if I could get away with something around $200 that would be preferable. In addition to a flash on the camera should I consider a slave flash, and if so any recomendations? Any Suggestions/Experiences will be much appreciated.
    Ken
    By all accounts the 580ex on the ETTLII 20D is a vast improvement over the last generation of Canon TTL combos. I haven't had a chance to test my ETTL flash (Sigma 500 DG Super) on my 20D yet - it's on loan to my assistant - but I found the ETTL combo on my DReb to be horribly inconsistent. I went backwards in history and bought a non TTL Sunpak 383. It requires me to keep my camera in "M" mode, but I find that the exposures are much more predictable. Keep in mind that weddings are very difficult on a camera's flash metering system because you are shooting subjects that are almost exclusively white or black (and TTL flash metering is designed to assume that the subject is 18% gray). I chose to take the thinking out of the camera, and leave it to the tried and true auto flash...
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    I also have a 20D. I ordered myself a Speedlite 580EX and the BG-E2 Battery Grip yesterday.

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    I tried a lesser flash and it didn't work at all so it went right back. I ended up with a 550EX and a 480ex for fills. this combo works great and I have not had too many problems other than having one or two slight blowouts that are easiliy fixed in post proccessing.

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    580EX or 550EX

    Do you think it is worth the extra $100 to purchase the 580ex over the 550ex (this would be the only flash I had for now)?
    Ken
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktixx
    Do you think it is worth the extra $100 to purchase the 580ex over the 550ex (this would be the only flash I had for now)?
    Ken
    Sorry, I can't answer that one, as I don't own a Canon. If you think you will need the extra capability (whatever it is) in the future, then it would be worth buying now. If you will never need the extra capability then go for the 550EX.

    From my own experience with the D70, opting for the higher end SB800 for $330 vs. the SB600 for $240 was worth it for the extra capability in the future. Even if I don't use it right away I won't have to buy another flash when I do need it.
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    After doing a little research, I think I would actually get the 580ex just for this reason:

    "One major new feature for digital shooters is that the flash now knows the sensor size of the EOS 20D (and EOS 1D Mk II with firmware update), and zooms the flash head to give full coverage over only the area seen by the sensor. The 550EX did not do this, and so, for example, "wasted" energy illuminating the 24x36mm frame outside that covered by the 22x15mm sensor in the 220D."

    Quote from: http://www.photo.net/equipment/canon/580ex/

    Ken
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktixx
    After doing a little research, I think I would actually get the 580ex just for this reason:

    "One major new feature for digital shooters is that the flash now knows the sensor size of the EOS 20D (and EOS 1D Mk II with firmware update), and zooms the flash head to give full coverage over only the area seen by the sensor. The 550EX did not do this, and so, for example, "wasted" energy illuminating the 24x36mm frame outside that covered by the 22x15mm sensor in the 220D."

    Quote from: http://www.photo.net/equipment/canon/580ex/

    Ken
    There is probably more than that for $100 as well. Like I said if you are going to spend the money on a nice camera $100 isn't that much difference.
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