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    Question Is SONY afraid to take charge?

    SONY has the focus of the market, right now. They have an announced product that, while impressive on many fronts, is still a little reserved on others. The loss of tethered operation (remote control) is devastating for quite a few a700-users and the continued use of IR-controlled flash in light of current RF-designs seems rather lazy, unimpressive and hard to justify (SONY could return to the "standardized" hot-shoe connection if you did use RF). Can you imagine the interest you could generate eliminating the need for 3rd-party PocketWizards? Does SONY own them? You would think so. If not, why doesn't SONY just buy the company and use the 'tech' for a leap-frog for this added capability in every advanced camera? Call the α77 variant the "α77F" for: "Sorry, we Forgot, in the "preliminary" version, to improve this aspect of the modern DSLR for the wonderful and dedicated consumers of our products."

    All in all, stock "development" restrictions also seem to be difficult to reason. Firmware upgrades are not that big a deal, as you can routinely download and do them at home (or wherever), but some of these other design shortfalls are a big deal. The α77 should be an awesome, kick-the-door-open advancement... if not, the α99 will probably be the last gasp for something that has really grown with the current and anticipated technologies. All the new bells and whistles are great looking (in-the-body HDR, 3D Panorama, 12-fps (up to 1-seconds worth?), GPS, HDMI, 1080p 30/60) but, it is unworthy of a company as large as SONY to keep refusing to get with practical advancements to go with these off-the-true-path designs. I suggest they quit with the "gadget-of-the-year" approach and get back to advanced practicality with photography. That is were the "photographer's" interest really lies. People need a tool to do work... not a toy.

    BTW: Do you remember the "photographer?" Look in the mirror... take a picture. That guy used to work for living... are we all just playing, now?

    I know some people consider my opinion radical, but I really need to ask you, "How many 'lists of desired advancements/upgrades' did the Minolta/SONY population submit to try and petition SONY to deliver the 'desired' product, instead of... well, this?" I suspect that there were dozens or more, on these forum boards. It is hard to fathom, if they were listening, that we would wind up, after four years, with another "shortfall!" Now what? Do we wait another four years to get the improved basics?

    THE WRITING HAS BEEN ON THE WALL, ALL ALONG.

    The way I see it, there is way too much caution being employed in this offering. A dozen or more 200 & 300-series cameras, over two years? Certainly, that had to cost some money. In fact, that "marketing plan" appears to have been a bust -> all that is left is the α390. Tsk-tsk... looks like game playing.

    I suggest, as I always have, that SONY make the camera the advanced-users want... and the quasi-professionals will look at and consider migrating to by making it --> COMPLETE!

    Again, the list of desired improvements is out there... it has not changed. It is still unfulfilled. You do not need to do a survey. Just read the postings. Again, it really is not out of the question. The question really is... why have you not made these practical improvements, SONY, and moved the entire experience forward? Your are producing half-advancements... and sticking to bad legacy moves. Just follow the instructions of your customer base (the people who are "investing" in your products) and success should follow.

    I know that there are those detractors that do not want to see SONY succeed at this and I do believe, once the basics are reworked in the camera... those detractors will become buyers. It just has to be there, first, and proven.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 09-08-2011 at 02:54 PM.
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    They are following their customer base. What you fail to understand is that their customer base is not the professional market. As for your wireless radio transmitted flash, good idea ? Sure. Feasible ? Unlikely at this stage. Do you think the transmitters for radio controlled flash are just for show ?

    Interesting that you would not highlight the most important thing a camera does on your dream list of improvements. Its like image quality is an afterthought and a "nice to have" in your world.
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    It needs to be the standard, Rooz, or at the very least, a "toggled option" in all cameras from now on, Canon, Nikon or SONY... whomever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    It needs to be the standard, Rooz, or at the very least, a "toggled option" in all cameras from now on, Canon, Nikon or SONY... whomever.
    i dont disagree that it would be a very useful feature. but how ? i ask again, what do you think the transmitters are for ? do you think they are just decorations ? they contain electronics that need to be fit into the camera somehow. i also think you are overstating the market for it, its a pretty small percentage in general, lets say 5% of the dslr market to be generous, hell i'll even up it to 10%. even then, its actually a percentage of that percentage of that percentage of that percentage. why ? well cos pros need more advanced control and range so they buy the top end gear. you would only be able to use it with new flashes, (probably OEM), which would come with radio control built in which rules out another massive chunk of it cos people prefer to use lots of cheaper older flashes that have a reciever, sb28 etc. so really...its usefulness of it on the camera is pretty skinny and limited and therefore not gonna happen anytime soon.
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    Lightbulb My recommendation is...

    if they have not already started on doing this... they better get started.

    No development or accomplishment ever did much of anything with people parked on their butts, unless you were playing a game.

    The incorporation of RF-wireless flash has always had the need to be part of the camera system.

    Physically speaking:
    • They went to all the trouble to pursue marginally effective IR-transmitters, which require a lot of real estate for that led and reflector.
    • The IR-transceiver must always face the transmitter on the camera's hotshoe.
    • Adding the RF antenna to the camera is a lot easier because it does not even have to be in any particular direction (it could even be stretched along the back of the camera).
    • The display electronics of a flash transmitter are already integrated in the camera, for the most part, this would be a firmware modification.
    • There is no need for batteries, because the current camera bodies have that allocation.


    Overall, it is a PLUS PLUS PLUS idea and its time has come.

    Anyone who has had the displeasure of misfires, no-fires, no communication or even plain old battery failure would want to benefit from this ultimately "reliable" flash setup. I would tend to believe they would gladly put forth the cash to have the flash units capable of reliable RF control and operation. I know I would even sell your flash stuff to obtain this kind of confidence when I shoot.

    I believe that the first one to incorporate this will have the true winning combination for the future. It is a "check-mark" for me and my buying practices. C'mon SONY, don't let me down.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 09-09-2011 at 12:13 PM.
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    still waiting on full frame............

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