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  1. #11
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    Specs look good. But what is with the small size?
    They look like they are smaller than the a700.
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    Frank, very small (in my view) and not intended as a replacement for the A700.

    I think it significant that Sony chose to announce these cameras now, just a month before Photokina. They must have something big up their sleeves to announce at that time otherwise they would have saved these till then.

    Just an opinion.

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    I hope so. It looks like a step in the right direction.

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    Definitely.
    Just to be more helpful than my last post, you need to look at the A55 and A580 as a pair, I think.
    If Video is a prime interest and stills a secondary or equal req., then you choose A55.
    If your primary interest is stills and occasional video, then you choose the A580.
    The price tells you where they stand in the market.
    The A7xx will be a different and much pricier animal, let's hope for a beast.
    If your budget doesn't run to at least $1200 then the A580 is for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peekayoh View Post
    Definitely.
    Just to be more helpful than my last post, you need to look at the A55 and A580 as a pair, I think.
    If Video is a prime interest and stills a secondary or equal req., then you choose A55.
    If your primary interest is stills and occasional video, then you choose the A580.
    The price tells you where they stand in the market.
    The A7xx will be a different and much pricier animal, let's hope for a beast.
    If your budget doesn't run to at least $1200 then the A580 is for you.
    give the man a medal. as opposed to Don who just doesnt get it and wants to add a grip to the a55 , you completely get the point of these. they are not intended to go up against the bigger dslr's. the EVF and size should have given this away immediately. this is esentially a bridge camera on steroids. as with the NEX cameras, this is a brilliant move from sony.

    i also agree with you that sony's big announcement is yet to come. the 2 new true dslr's are a bit ho-hum, these 2 are brilliant...what's to come ?
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    For a smaller camera i still like the NEX-5.
    But I'll definitely go play with one of these when they show up in the store or at the photo show this fall.
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    Angry Get a grip!

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    give the man a medal. as opposed to Don who just doesnt get it and wants to add a grip to the a55 ...
    For a ham-handed guy like myself, these are a problem. Now, here at the school, 90% of the photography students are women ... and they would find these probably just fine, ergonomically speaking.

    I need and want a "monster" grip on my rig. Yes, I can one-hand an α850 w/ a BIGMA AF 50-500mmm f/4.5 lens on it, although that still is a bit chancy. I could not do that with an α55. The first thing I looked for with this camera was a vertical grip ... since there is not one ... I won't buy it.

    So while these toy-sizes are fun for the "rest of ya" ... I see their diminutive size as a problem/hazard. Dropped and smashed glass of significant size is quite expensive!

    There are plenty of other glass fumblers to account for this issue. How many times have we seen the familiar post: "I dropped my rig (for whatever reason) ... what now?" I'm not spending $800 to join that crowd, just because it is in vogue to "go small."

    Have you seen the "Burger King" commercials featuring the guy with small hands? This is his camera, for sure. One thing is for certain ... it is sure going to make your lenses look a lot bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    For a ham-handed guy like myself, these are a problem. Now, here at the school, 90% of the photography students are women ... and they would find these probably just fine, ergonomically speaking.

    I need and want a "monster" grip on my rig. Yes, I can one-hand an α850 w/ a BIGMA AF 50-500mmm f/4.5 lens on it, although that still is a bit chancy. I could not do that with an α55. The first thing I looked for with this camera was a vertical grip ... since there is not one ... I won't buy it.

    So while these toy-sizes are fun for the "rest of ya" ... I see their diminutive size as a problem/hazard. Dropped and smashed glass of significant size is quite expensive!

    There are plenty of other glass fumblers to account for this issue. How many times have we seen the familiar post: "I dropped my rig (for whatever reason) ... what now?" I'm not spending $800 to join that crowd, just because it is in vogue to "go small."

    Have you seen the "Burger King" commercials featuring the guy with small hands? This is his camera, for sure. One thing is for certain ... it is sure going to make your lenses look a lot bigger.
    so the answer is quite simple. dont buy one. you dont have to buy every new gadget just cos it has a sony brandname on it do you...or DO you ?
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    Question Why are you busting on my call?

    Yeah, I do ...

    Look, whether you want to get involved (or not), SONY has delivered something rather unique and special, today.

    But, no, this time I can wait ... as I stated, they have tipped their hand at some decent improvements, but it is not what I am looking for ... yet. I waited a year for the Alpha 850 ... and they met my request of under $2000, so it got bought. A promise is a promise.

    My inclination is a HIGH-END version of the SLT ... when and if it become realized in FULL FRAME. I am convinced that it will have to be REAL-TIME capable, because any delay in processing at high fps clearly defeats the need for that speed. You have to see what you are shooting, that's all there is to it. OVF or somekind of "flash" EVF ... no delay. We are working at immensely higher subject speeds for this camera to be truly effective. You can buffer the storage, but you have to have effectively instantaneous display to your eye.

    I want the "Alpha One" ...
    • 30 to 35MP,
    • OVF (or instantaneous EVF)
    • ISO-25600 or higher
    • 14 fps or better
    • GPS (obviously)
    • Wireless RF flash equipped (finally), with flash control features
    • twin RAID SD-card equipped
    • Electronic T/C (1.4x, 2x, 3x)
    • Auto HDR
    • Full Panorama capability
    • and yeah, throw in your silly-assed movie mode, if you positively, absolutely need to be a cinematic-god!


    That's just the short list.

    It can be built ... and should be. The entire world is waiting ... even Canon and Nikon. They have to have something to shoot for.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 08-24-2010 at 06:50 PM.
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