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  1. #1
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    Embarrassment of riches, D3s or D3x for a birth

    Hi all-

    I have a credit at a camera rental place near to where my second child (Yay!) will be born. I was thinking about renting either the D3s or the D3x for the day of the birth and the day after.

    My initial thought was to rent the D3s, be able to take any picture I want without worry about a flash. These pictures though will be used for 50 years, so the added resolution of the D3x might be valuable.

    I am comfortable with using manual settings, thats all I ever use on my D90. All my shooting will be done freehand (and likely a very excited hand). Some of the research I have done suggests that the D3x is sort of a waste unless you have a tripod.

    I have also heard that you should never use a flash around a newborn, which if true tends to suggest the D3s.

    Im likely to rent the 85mm 1.4 as well, unless people have other suggestions. I will also bring my 24-70 and 50 1.4G.

    Any thoughts or advice would be great, thanks so much.
    D7000. Nikon 24-70mm 2.8, 70-200mm VRII, 16-85mm, 50mm 1.4G, 35mm 1.8G. SB 600.

  2. #2
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    Every non-professional (i.e. not making a living from photography) photographer should use a professional camera at some time in their life, just to know what it's like.

    Warning: You may have a hard time appreciating your D90 afterwords. Luckily there is the D700 to break your fall at half the price.

    In your case you have a great excuse for spending a moderate amount of money (not sure what a D3s rents for these days) to get those pictures of a lifetime. The 85mm f/1.4... also not a bad choice.

    Enjoy, and let us know how it turns out.
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  3. #3
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    The day of your child's birth and the day after is not when you want to be learning the ins and outs of a new camera this complex IMO. I'd use your existing gear (perhaps with a rented 85mm as you suggested) and bounce your flash and use something like this to prevent any direct flash from hitting your baby. http://neilvn.com/tangents/2009/11/2...-foamie-thing/
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    Note: Since Thronson is comfortable using manual controls on his D90 it should not be much of a stretch. I found the D3s pretty easy to use after about 20-30 minutes of getting familair with the controls.

    Before you rent, a quick tutorial is the review at Imaging Resource (sorry Jeff has not had the chance to review this cam as I do prefer his reviews).

    http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D3S/D3SA.HTM#

    Have fun.
    D7000, D70, CP990, CP900, FE.
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  5. #5
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    Just a caution that you can't predict the day with any degree of certainty, and when the day does come you will have lots of far more important things to do than go to the camera store

    Good luck!
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    Congrats and enjoy.

    For me it's not the day I'd be photographing but to each their own.
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  7. #7
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    85 mm seems to be too long for a new born baby. You will have to stand from about the middle of the room and then the baby will be lying in a crib, out of the line of sight. In my opinion you will be more comfortable with a 35 or 50 mm.
    I agree with everyone else, get the camera first and get used to it. The moment the baby arrived is no time to learn using a new and unfamiliar camera.
    Congratulations!

    PS: I just noticed you have a 1.4G 50 as well... that should be alright but I doubt if the 85 mm will be of much use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dread Pirate Roberts View Post
    Congrats and enjoy.

    For me it's not the day I'd be photographing but to each their own.
    +1 I have exactly the same thoughts.

  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thronsen View Post
    Hi all-

    I have a credit at a camera rental place near to where my second child (Yay!) will be born. I was thinking about renting either the D3s or the D3x for the day of the birth and the day after.

    My initial thought was to rent the D3s, be able to take any picture I want without worry about a flash. These pictures though will be used for 50 years, so the added resolution of the D3x might be valuable.

    I am comfortable with using manual settings, thats all I ever use on my D90. All my shooting will be done freehand (and likely a very excited hand). Some of the research I have done suggests that the D3x is sort of a waste unless you have a tripod.

    I have also heard that you should never use a flash around a newborn, which if true tends to suggest the D3s.

    Im likely to rent the 85mm 1.4 as well, unless people have other suggestions. I will also bring my 24-70 and 50 1.4G.

    Any thoughts or advice would be great, thanks so much.
    ive used both, the d3s mostly. in anything less than perfect light with immaculate glass, the d3x will disappoint you. the sensor is so good and eeks out every bit of detail that anything less than the best glass with bagloads of light is not doing it justice.

    the d3s works anywhere, anytime with anything. its mindblowingly forgiving and is hands down what i'd choose every time. especially in your circumstances. i take on board what others have said about the new camera but honsetly, its not going to be an issue for you since you already have good knowledge of dslr. whack it in aperture priority and auto iso it up to 12800 and you're gold. its absolutely foolproof in that regard.
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  10. #10
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    I understand the importance of having these special images to save but why not just use an HD camcorder? Vid might be more special to look back upon than an image, plus, it will be easier to use in a pinch.
    Jason

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