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  1. #1
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    Lenses lenses lenses, couch

    Right, so I've basically got the camera decision sorted.
    I'll be keeping the D80 until it dies completely and then picking up a D700.

    What I'm looking at now is to increase my wedding lens collection(terrible hobby this innit?)

    I only have the 18-55 kitty and the Nikkor 50mm 1.8f in my bag for now, so I'm lacking a little.

    I want a nice wide lens, good low light zoom and an okay macro(for personal use)
    I'm looking at the following lenses, but I won't be able to spend thousands on lenses just yet.

    Any good? Maybe some other ones I've not looked at yet?



    Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...0mm_f_3_5.html

    Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._XR_Di_II.html

    Sigma 105mm F/2.8
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...2_8_EX_DG.html

    Tamron 55-200mm f/4-5.6
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._Di_II_LD.html
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    D700/Nikkor 14-24mm 2.8/Nikkor 24-70mm 2.8/Sigma 70-300mm 4-5.6 APO/ Nikkor 50mm 1.8

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    I wouldn't buy any of those. At least three of them and maybe all four are designed for DX cameras and will produce vignetting on a FF sensor camera.
    If you are definitely going FF then you need to bite the bullet and buy FF lenses now otherwise all you are doing is buying stuff that will need to be replaced.

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    Thing is, I have no idea how long it'll take me to get the D700, 3 months, maybe more.
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    D700/Nikkor 14-24mm 2.8/Nikkor 24-70mm 2.8/Sigma 70-300mm 4-5.6 APO/ Nikkor 50mm 1.8

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    Three months is tomorrow.
    Are you saying that you would buy one or more of these lenses knowing that you'd only effectively get three months use from it? None of them are good enough lenses that they are going to hold their value as used items so you'll take a hit when resale time comes.
    Look at what FF equivalents are available you could buy those now and use them effectively forever. If you don't want to do that then shelve the D700 idea, buy the lens or lenses and look towards a D300 class camera as the replacement for the D80.

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    Hrrmmm, so what lense would you recommend for a D700 then?

    Budget isn't all that big TBH
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    D700/Nikkor 14-24mm 2.8/Nikkor 24-70mm 2.8/Sigma 70-300mm 4-5.6 APO/ Nikkor 50mm 1.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by anco85 View Post
    Budget isn't all that big TBH
    That is where your problems will be. Big camera = big lenses.
    FF lenses are significantly larger and heavier and generally way more expensive than DX equivalents they have to be because they need more glass to cover the larger size of the sensor.
    In Nikon products the trilogy for most FF users is 12-24, 24-70 and 70-200 (in DX terms that's the same FOV as having 8-16, 16-45 and 45-135 lenses). If you really are going to go FF you will need to invest some significant money into the glass there will be no point at all in getting the new body and only having the 50mm f1.8 that can actually take advantage of the full size of the sensor (set you kit zoom lens on 35mm and you will see what the 50mm will look like on a FF).
    Of course the advantage of FF is that there are heaps of older Nikon lenses around that are excellent and will generally work well on FF and pop up from time to time on auction sites but that then raises other problems with your location.
    Sorry to be so negative but I really think that given your location and tight budget FF may not be the way to go in the medium term at least.

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    I do want(that's the important part right?) a D700, so I'll get it anyway and then grab lenses as I can afford them.

    Let me have a look at those lenses you mentioned.

    Thanks a bundle
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    D700/Nikkor 14-24mm 2.8/Nikkor 24-70mm 2.8/Sigma 70-300mm 4-5.6 APO/ Nikkor 50mm 1.8

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    If you are on a budget, then you will have to get Sigma alternatives for the D700 or second hand nikon lenses.

    If you want fast "budget" FF glass, the Sigma 24-70 has had good reviews. The alternative is the stellar nikon 24-70 (about twice the price).

    If you dont mind fast, you can get a 24-80 f2.8-4.

    Those lenses are walkaround lenses.

    You can do down the route of primes (light and fast), but depends on your preferences.

    Wide angle = big bucks or compromise. You can get the nikon 16-35, 14.24 (all over 1000) or a sigma 12-24 (the widest FF zoom lens you can buy) but the latter has poor SOOC quality compared to the nikons.

    Zooms - I have a sigma 70-200 (first version) and love it apart from crap performance at f2.8 (i.e soft and lack of contrast) as well as poor close focusing (2m!). From f3.5-f4 onwards, its sharp and excellent (bokeh is staggeringly good on this IMO). Again you have a the Nikon alternative which is outstanding (as all recent nikon zooms (FF) are) but you pay around 1500 for it.

    Only macro I have used (and adored the quality) was the nikon 60mm f2.8 (non afs). But that can be quite short a focal length (depending on use). Here though, i have heard that Sigma produces outstanding macro lenses (the 105mm and 150mm).

    So in conclusion, you have options, but they come with compromises (i.e. the cheaper the worse the quality is SOOC). However, if you are willing to spend some time in PP (i.e. adjusting sharpness and contrast) then you can get "cheap" glass that can be used on DX in the meantime.

    Thats my view, open to arguments
    Nikon D700
    Sigma 70-200 F2.8
    Sigma 85mm F1.4
    Sigma 15-30 F3.5 - 4.5



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    Quote Originally Posted by K1W1 View Post
    In Nikon products the trilogy for most FF users is 12-24, 24-70 and 70-200 (in DX terms that's the same FOV as having 8-16, 16-45 and 45-135 lenses). .
    is the 12-24 nikon lens FF? Or do you mean the sigma?
    Nikon D700
    Sigma 70-200 F2.8
    Sigma 85mm F1.4
    Sigma 15-30 F3.5 - 4.5



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    Quote Originally Posted by herc182 View Post
    is the 12-24 nikon lens FF? Or do you mean the sigma?
    Oops typo. 14-24 f2.8.
    Moral - don't watch an iPhone OS 4 update and type at the same time.

    I like your lens options for FF it gives a good selection of choices.

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