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  1. #1
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    Nikkor 70-200 VR 1 vs VR II Comparison

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    Came across a 70-200 VR 1 for sale, new, going for around 130 less than the VR 2. Comparisons i've researched indicate VR2 version has substantially improved ability to hand hold shoot with this, but a comparison I read on dpreview forum (that i googled..) indicates stepped down the VR1 takes the prize on optical quality where as the VR2 doesn't improve when stepped down. Comparison also mentioned the VR2 resolution is better and it vignetting less on FX.

    As I don't own an FX camera yet and will initially use on my D300 but later will probably use on an FX body, and also will be likely using this on a monopod and not tripod what do others feel is the better to go for?
    Last edited by Cyberwlf; 06-22-2010 at 06:19 PM.
    Cameras: Nikon D300, Panasonic Lumix G2, LX3 & FZ20
    Nikkor Lenses: 24-70mm f2.8 - 70-300mm VRII f4.5-5.6 - 50mm f1.4 G - 35mm f1.8 G - 50mm f1.8 - 18-200mm VR f3.5-5.6
    Other Lenses: Tokina: 11-16mm f2.8, Sigma: 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 Macro, Lumix: 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 & 20mm f1.7
    Other: Nikon SB 600, Vivitar 1/2/4 Close-up Lens, Cokin Graduated ND Filter and more...
    Computers/Software: MacBookPro 2.8ghz, Dell Latitude D630, Lexar CF UDMA FW800 Reader, Nikon Capture NX 1+2, Adobe Lightroom 1+2+3

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    If I planed on staying with DX, I would absolutely pick up a VR1 version. I use mine on my FX and it's still one of my favorite lenses. I would like the new version but the few improvements don't justify the cost for me and I'm shooting FF.
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    When I do upgrade to FF at whatever point that is (...which i cant say i'm in a rush to do at present) I anticipate it will be something like the D700's replacement (when it comes out..), but the reason I am getting the 70-200 is all about getting great optics so even though any discounts is a nice bonus its not my primary focus either. Both versions seem to have their own pro's and con's from what I gather.
    Last edited by Cyberwlf; 06-22-2010 at 06:21 PM.
    Cameras: Nikon D300, Panasonic Lumix G2, LX3 & FZ20
    Nikkor Lenses: 24-70mm f2.8 - 70-300mm VRII f4.5-5.6 - 50mm f1.4 G - 35mm f1.8 G - 50mm f1.8 - 18-200mm VR f3.5-5.6
    Other Lenses: Tokina: 11-16mm f2.8, Sigma: 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 Macro, Lumix: 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 & 20mm f1.7
    Other: Nikon SB 600, Vivitar 1/2/4 Close-up Lens, Cokin Graduated ND Filter and more...
    Computers/Software: MacBookPro 2.8ghz, Dell Latitude D630, Lexar CF UDMA FW800 Reader, Nikon Capture NX 1+2, Adobe Lightroom 1+2+3

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    130 pounds is not much to future proof a lens purchase. If I were in your position that's that way I would go.

    I love my 70-200VR1 on my D300 and have no intention of upgrading it for the Aus$1400.00 difference between what I'd get for it and what a new VR2 would cost but for an new purchase with only Aus$220 difference it would be VR2 every time.

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    I am leaning towards the VR2 at this point but there is something else i'd also read that slightly concerns me "One point to note is the considerable focus breathing this lens exhibits. At close distances you get less reach than expected." (seen this point written in a few different ways...but basically at closer distances the focal length is said to be equiv to 135mm effective), also different magnification ratio apparently.
    Cameras: Nikon D300, Panasonic Lumix G2, LX3 & FZ20
    Nikkor Lenses: 24-70mm f2.8 - 70-300mm VRII f4.5-5.6 - 50mm f1.4 G - 35mm f1.8 G - 50mm f1.8 - 18-200mm VR f3.5-5.6
    Other Lenses: Tokina: 11-16mm f2.8, Sigma: 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 Macro, Lumix: 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 & 20mm f1.7
    Other: Nikon SB 600, Vivitar 1/2/4 Close-up Lens, Cokin Graduated ND Filter and more...
    Computers/Software: MacBookPro 2.8ghz, Dell Latitude D630, Lexar CF UDMA FW800 Reader, Nikon Capture NX 1+2, Adobe Lightroom 1+2+3

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    Anyone know more about or have experience with the issues listed in previous post?
    Cameras: Nikon D300, Panasonic Lumix G2, LX3 & FZ20
    Nikkor Lenses: 24-70mm f2.8 - 70-300mm VRII f4.5-5.6 - 50mm f1.4 G - 35mm f1.8 G - 50mm f1.8 - 18-200mm VR f3.5-5.6
    Other Lenses: Tokina: 11-16mm f2.8, Sigma: 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 Macro, Lumix: 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 & 20mm f1.7
    Other: Nikon SB 600, Vivitar 1/2/4 Close-up Lens, Cokin Graduated ND Filter and more...
    Computers/Software: MacBookPro 2.8ghz, Dell Latitude D630, Lexar CF UDMA FW800 Reader, Nikon Capture NX 1+2, Adobe Lightroom 1+2+3

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    I don't think any regulars here to the best of my knowledge own a VR2.

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    Yeah I wasn't sure if anyone here did, but this forum is always my first stop for advice on all things Nikon.

    From what I gathered it meant that if you are standard at closer physical proximity to your subject (within allowable minimum focusing distances) then the image distortion / bokeh / field of view etc is similar to that of a 135mm lens when the lens is set to 200mm or 'you'd have to physically move about 3 feet closer to the subject to get the same framing' to quote someone. I believe this is a difference in manufacturing that is the cause there.
    Cameras: Nikon D300, Panasonic Lumix G2, LX3 & FZ20
    Nikkor Lenses: 24-70mm f2.8 - 70-300mm VRII f4.5-5.6 - 50mm f1.4 G - 35mm f1.8 G - 50mm f1.8 - 18-200mm VR f3.5-5.6
    Other Lenses: Tokina: 11-16mm f2.8, Sigma: 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 Macro, Lumix: 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 & 20mm f1.7
    Other: Nikon SB 600, Vivitar 1/2/4 Close-up Lens, Cokin Graduated ND Filter and more...
    Computers/Software: MacBookPro 2.8ghz, Dell Latitude D630, Lexar CF UDMA FW800 Reader, Nikon Capture NX 1+2, Adobe Lightroom 1+2+3

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    To quote Thom..
    However, all bets are off at closer focus distances. Some lens designs "breath." That's the term for changing focal length with focus distance. The 18-200mm is a notorious heavy breather: it is so significantly short of 200mm at its closest focus distance that even casual users notice this. You can calculate the focal length of a lens at its closest focus distance by using the formula minimum_focus / ((1/reproduction_ratio) + reproduction_ratio + 2). The Nikon 17-55mm DX, for instance, works out to be 50mm under that formula, which is pretty much a non-breather. The older 70-200mm calculates to 182mm, which is still pretty much a non-breather (it's only lost 7% of its focal length). But the new 70-200mm? Well, it's a pretty heavy breather: it loses 29% of its focal length as you focus closer.
    Cameras: Nikon D300, Panasonic Lumix G2, LX3 & FZ20
    Nikkor Lenses: 24-70mm f2.8 - 70-300mm VRII f4.5-5.6 - 50mm f1.4 G - 35mm f1.8 G - 50mm f1.8 - 18-200mm VR f3.5-5.6
    Other Lenses: Tokina: 11-16mm f2.8, Sigma: 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 Macro, Lumix: 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 & 20mm f1.7
    Other: Nikon SB 600, Vivitar 1/2/4 Close-up Lens, Cokin Graduated ND Filter and more...
    Computers/Software: MacBookPro 2.8ghz, Dell Latitude D630, Lexar CF UDMA FW800 Reader, Nikon Capture NX 1+2, Adobe Lightroom 1+2+3

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    Quote Originally Posted by k1w1 View Post
    130 pounds is not much to future proof a lens purchase. If i were in your position that's that way i would go.

    I love my 70-200vr1 on my d300 and have no intention of upgrading it for the aus$1400.00 difference between what i'd get for it and what a new vr2 would cost but for an new purchase with only aus$220 difference it would be vr2 every time.
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