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    New Cell Phone

    I just got my new cell phone it has an 8mp camera. When ever I take pictures that have the sky in it it enhances the sky. It looks like there is a polarized filter on the lens.

    Frank

    Here is a comparison of my camera and the phone.

    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

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    Chalk and cheese, Frank. Are you surprised or miffed?

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    I was hoping to see what everybody else thought. I think it gives it a fake looking sky. After playing with the settings I lowered the saturation and they look better. It does take good pictures if you can hold steady. I don't know how people use P&S cameras.

    Frank
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

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    Frank, I've had a camera on my phone for three or more years and used it no more than a couple of times. That may say more about me than the phone, but there it is.
    As far as the picture you posted goes, the sky may look un-natural but it also has a shedload of noise.
    The red on the flag is non-existent and the spars and rigging have peculiar edge detail.
    About what you'd expect from a cell phone and not really P&S quality.

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    Pete that is a heavy crop the picture does look good except for the sky.

    Frank
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

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    Frank, I'm not sure where we're going with this one.
    It's a given that the cell phone image cannot approach the quality of the one from your DSLR.
    Blue skies are hard (noise wise) for a DSLR and even harder for a cell phone with maybe a 20x crop factor and a much reduced S/N ratio.
    As we all know, "size matters".

    That doesn't mean the device has no merit. What counts is that the cell phone is always with you so, although 99% of cell phone images have no artistic merit and are of interest only to a very limited number, there are occasions when the images are invaluable. Which of us did not see the images of Iranian protesters in the streets of Teheran or the Indonesian Tsunami.

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    I know what you are saying Pete. I just thought that an 8mp camera would be more like a P&S camera and it isn't. I had a camera phone for years and I don't think I took 10 pictures with it.


    Frank
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

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    Same old story, Frank. Never mind that IQ would be better with fewer, bigger photosites (higher S/N ratio); the marketing people simply want more megapixels because it sounds good to a gullible public. Consider this ...

    The display on a mobile phone is about 100k pixels.
    500k pixels is adequate for web posting.
    Only 1.4MP are needed for a good 6x4 print.
    A 1080p full HD TV display is 2MP.

    I can't see the sense in offering more than 2MP, they can't make the lens and sensor big enough to challenge a proper P&S, so why bother.

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    I am going to play with it and see what I can get. The biggest problem I am having is holding it steady.

    Frank
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

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    Oh well! At least DOF won't be a problem.

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