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    New Cell Phone

    I just got my new cell phone it has an 8mp camera. When ever I take pictures that have the sky in it it enhances the sky. It looks like there is a polarized filter on the lens.

    Frank

    Here is a comparison of my camera and the phone.

    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

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    Chalk and cheese, Frank. Are you surprised or miffed?

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    I was hoping to see what everybody else thought. I think it gives it a fake looking sky. After playing with the settings I lowered the saturation and they look better. It does take good pictures if you can hold steady. I don't know how people use P&S cameras.

    Frank
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkie1263 View Post
    I was hoping to see what everybody else thought. I think it gives it a fake looking sky.
    Frank
    Not fond of polarizers as it makes the sky unnaturally dark and fake, as you say.
    Oh, and I don't have a cell phone.
    Pentax K20D/K5/15/21/40/70/10-17/12-24, Sigma 17-70 2.8-4.5/150-500, Tamron 90 Macro/70-200 2.8, Canon SX20 IS/Elph 500HS
    (formerly Pentax 50 1.4/50-200/55-300/K100D, Sigma 18-50 2.8/70-300 APO, Tamron 28-75, Viv 800, Tele-Tokina 800, Canon S3 IS, Samsung L210)
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    filters of any kind are pretty much useless in the digital age...


    they will just screw up your sharpness anyway

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    Frank, I've had a camera on my phone for three or more years and used it no more than a couple of times. That may say more about me than the phone, but there it is.
    As far as the picture you posted goes, the sky may look un-natural but it also has a shedload of noise.
    The red on the flag is non-existent and the spars and rigging have peculiar edge detail.
    About what you'd expect from a cell phone and not really P&S quality.

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    Pete that is a heavy crop the picture does look good except for the sky.

    Frank
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

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    Frank, I'm not sure where we're going with this one.
    It's a given that the cell phone image cannot approach the quality of the one from your DSLR.
    Blue skies are hard (noise wise) for a DSLR and even harder for a cell phone with maybe a 20x crop factor and a much reduced S/N ratio.
    As we all know, "size matters".

    That doesn't mean the device has no merit. What counts is that the cell phone is always with you so, although 99% of cell phone images have no artistic merit and are of interest only to a very limited number, there are occasions when the images are invaluable. Which of us did not see the images of Iranian protesters in the streets of Teheran or the Indonesian Tsunami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peekayoh View Post
    Frank, I'm not sure where we're going with this one.
    It's a given that the cell phone image cannot approach the quality of the one from your DSLR.
    Blue skies are hard (noise wise) for a DSLR and even harder for a cell phone with maybe a 20x crop factor and a much reduced S/N ratio.
    As we all know, "size matters".

    That doesn't mean the device has no merit. What counts is that the cell phone is always with you so, although 99% of cell phone images have no artistic merit and are of interest only to a very limited number, there are occasions when the images are invaluable. Which of us did not see the images of Iranian protesters in the streets of Teheran or the Indonesian Tsunami.
    I think there is more value to it than that. To me sometimes a blown-out noisy picture is the effect I am looking for. And I think the limitations of a cell phone camera can really help the photog to see and think differently. Chase Jarvis has devoted a whole site and iPhone application to the concept. I shoot BW film for the same reason. Making the photo about the composition and subject, not the IQ, can make amazing art.
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    EOS 5D - Canon EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM, EF 35 f/2, EF 50mm f/1.8 Mk II, EF 70-210 f/3.5-4.5 USM, EF 85mm f/1.8 USM, EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro, Helios 44-2 58mm f/2 (with EOS adapter), 430EX, Canon S90
    Nikon FE - Nikkor 35mm f/2 AI'd, Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 AI, Nikkor 105mm f/2.5 AI, F to EF adapter, 2xVivitar 285, other lighting stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by laydros View Post
    I think there is more value to it than that. To me sometimes a blown-out noisy picture is the effect I am looking for. And I think the limitations of a cell phone camera can really help the photog to see and think differently. Chase Jarvis has devoted a whole site and iPhone application to the concept. I shoot BW film for the same reason. Making the photo about the composition and subject, not the IQ, can make amazing art.
    Jason, I don't buy it. Photographically, theres nothing a cell phone can do that your camera can't do better.

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