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  1. #21
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    If you look closely at the mounting collar of this camera, there does not seem to be the standard blade / 1/8th-twist lock. It must use some kind of hidden pin to secure the lens in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4gon View Post
    I guess the sensor is probably a bit smaller as well.
    now that i'd be VERY surprised at. it has to be an aps-c sensor you;d think. looking at that 18-70 kit lens ?? mounted in the pic, it looks awfully big to put on that tiny body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooz View Post
    now that i'd be VERY surprised at. it has to be an aps-c sensor you;d think. looking at that 18-70 kit lens ?? mounted in the pic, it looks awfully big to put on that tiny body.
    Yeah, my mistake.

    Looks like it is APS-C

    http://www.photographybay.com/2010/0...ography+Bay%29

    Do they need a new mount then? Perhaps not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4gon View Post
    Yeah, my mistake.

    Looks like it is APS-C

    http://www.photographybay.com/2010/0...ography+Bay%29

    Do they need a new mount then? Perhaps not.
    i thought the mount was slightly different given that you would assume that the new lens' will be different designs to make them smaller. (no mirror on the body). i'm pretty sure that this is the way the m4/3 system works. same sensor size but the lack of the mirror means that the m4/3 dedicated lens' are much smaller and lighter. regular 4/3 glass require an adaptor of some description to mount onto m4/3 bodies.

    to me, if you dont have that smaller lens advantage then you can forget the body. its a pointless exercise.
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    It is absolutely a new mount, the EVIL camera isn't deep enough to use Alpha lenses directly. Lenses would focus way past infinity, and not close focus at all. Sony alpha rumors says there will be an adapter for A mount, and I have every reason to believe that will be true. I also expect it will fully support all A mount lenses, with one big exception... I doubt that tiny camera will have an in-camera focusing motor. So you will probably need SAM or SSM lenses for auto-focus, which would explain why they are starting to make everything with a SAM motor, they knew this camera was coming soon.

    I could be wrong, they might have some method of a focusing motor (in the adapter? sony alpha rumors says it will be $200) or they may not provide compatibility with alpha lenses. But that seems doubtful since the micro 4/3 support 4/3 lenses, and the NX10 supports K mount lenses.

    This may finally be the EVIL that I want. The Panasonic GF-1 is very close, but I want in-body IS, and I'd rather have an APS-C sensor. One of the nice things about getting a mirror-less camera is being able to adapt all kinds of older lenses (even rangefinder lenses in many cases), but with a 2x crop factor on micro 4/3, you can't go wide at all. 1.5x still stinks, but it would be much better. Plus I know my way around Maxxum lenses, and still have a couple in the closet. $1000 seems like a lot, but rumors are that there will be cheaper ones soon, similar to what Oly is doing with their new one.

    I just hope it has the control dials on it I want.
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    GF-1 is nice. In-body IS for a pancake would be nice. I want something smaller. I was quite surprised how large the E-P1 is in real life.

    These new Sony's aren't quite EVILs yet. They don't have the electronic viewfinder accessory (yet).

    One killer thing is the hotshoe will be Sony, which means an adapter for my pocketwizards .

    I'm thinking the LX4 is the right camera for me! I wish I had found a cheaper LX3 way back last year. (lucky rooz!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4gon View Post
    GF-1 is nice. In-body IS for a pancake would be nice. I want something smaller. I was quite surprised how large the E-P1 is in real life.

    These new Sony's aren't quite EVILs yet. They don't have the electronic viewfinder accessory (yet).

    One killer thing is the hotshoe will be Sony, which means an adapter for my pocketwizards .

    I'm thinking the LX4 is the right camera for me! I wish I had found a cheaper LX3 way back last year. (lucky rooz!)
    Mmmm... I think the definition is with the thought that every camera has a viewfinder, it is just a question of if it is optical or electronic. In this case there isn't a viewfinder that you put your eye up to, it is a big screen. EV kinda meaning doesn't have an optical viewfinder.

    Hot shoe is a good point. Hopefully it will have a sync port. I would probably have bought the Canon S90 by now if it had a pc port.

    (I guess not EVERY camera has a viewfinder, box cameras didn't, along with other early or special purpose cameras)

    Edit: What am I smoking! They won't put a PC port on this thing. They don't put it on any consumer cameras. Whatever, Sony hotshoe-PC ports are easy enough to find.
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  8. #28
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    Haha, yeah. They'd have a hotshoe first. If it really is small, shoots hd video, has a Sony hot shoe, and can shoot decent pictures (oh and at a good price ~$500-$600), I would really consider it. I think it's a stretch though with the pricing and small size, who knows.
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    Thumbs up The spark looks like it may be there ...

    and the "bubbling" has begun about the new α700 replacement w/video capability. It may be right around ... the corner. I sure hope they did not lose the remote control aspect to it ... that was cool.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 07-28-2010 at 06:36 AM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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    The guy at national camera told me a hd dslr is coming out in a month....we'll see

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