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  1. #1
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    Help with settings in situation

    You may have read that I have been having problems getting decent pictures at the skatepark. I took some more pictures tonight and they are complete garbage. I am starting to think that my only option is a few external flashes setup on tripods around the area I want to shoot. Both were shot using Shutter Priority. This is of course the kit lens with no flash. Any advice for a novice? A few examples...



    f/5
    1/100sec
    Exposure Bias: +3
    38mm Focal Length
    Max Aperture: 4.7
    Spot Metering
    ISO HI-1



    This picture was just of the park itself, but the quality was MUCH better. Unfortunately, with this slow of a shutter speed, the people would turn out blurry.

    f/3.5
    1/60sec
    Exposure: +3
    18mm Focal Length
    Max Aperture: 3.6
    ISO 1600

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    What lens did you use? and what camera?
    The light is not enough, that's basically the problem you face. And boosting EV to + will only make shutter go slower. A faster lens will improve it which is why we need to know what gear you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myboostedgst View Post
    This is of course the kit lens with no flash.
    Nikon D3000

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    You need a flash. Thats the only thing thats gonna help you in a place like that. A faster lens of say f/2.8 or better would give you "better" results than what your getting but a flash will give you the best quality image. Check out an SB-600, they are pretty affordable now a days. At the distance your shooting from you wont need to put them on a stand or anything, the hot shoe will do.
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    I completely agree with r3g. Although, if you are going to use the flash on camera.. Id suggest getting a flash bracket so you dont have shadow problems. The cheaper alternative would be a light stand, which can be had for $30. Look into a used SB-800. It can be used remotely, which the 600 cannot.
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    The 800 has an IR sensor?
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    Get a 50mm f/1.4 AF-S
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    In addition to the faster lens and flash, you may also need to underexpose a bit to speed up your shutter. Then you can brighten the image up in post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fionndruinne View Post
    Get a 50mm f/1.4 AF-S
    This and flash would really work well together

    I'd use manual, set the shutter speed to 1/200, and play around with the aperture to see what depth of field you are comfortable with

    Looks like there is too much ambient light to consider a slow shutter speed

    There is a bit of a green cast in your photos, is this the colour of the lights? You may want to look into flash gels after you sucessfully manage to freeze movement.
    Last edited by Screenclutter; 12-15-2009 at 07:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondSCattleCo View Post
    In addition to the faster lens and flash, you may also need to underexpose a bit to speed up your shutter. Then you can brighten the image up in post.

    I don't think he will need to underexpose at all. Take the bike picture for example. At that distance an SB-600/800 would have more than enough power to properly exposure the subject at shutter speeds of over 1/400.

    I would also recommend throwing some sort of diffuser on the flash too to soften the light a bit.
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