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  1. #1
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    Talking Older versus Modern Photography

    Okay ... so you don't remember when the Minolta Maxxum 7000 SLR was introduced. In fact, you don't remember when the Maxxum 9000 Pro was introduced, either. My goodness, where were you?

    "Oh, yeah!"

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    ... you probably weren't BORN yet!
    (My apologies to those of you who were.)

    Yeah, hard as it is to believe, the AF-mount lenses, we all still can enjoy on our modern SONY DSLRs were released as early as 1985. Yeah, twenty-five years ago! It is a stunning revelation, looking back, and one that simply changed everything, for all the manufacturers. Autofocus is a staple of today's photography.

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    The famous Minolta Maxxum 7000 w/ Minolta AF 200mm f/2.8 APO G HS lens
    and the awesome SONY α700 w/ TAMRON SP AF 70-200mm f/2.8 Di LD MACRO

    Okay ... where were you in 1985?

    1. Sparkle in my daddy's eye
    2. Looking at the new Minolta 7000 advertisement in some magazine at the school library
    3. Holding that sweet baby the week/month they released it.
    4. Still using non-AF technology, trying to get my money's worth out of it.


    Yeah, pop me for #3. It was like a dream come true.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 11-24-2009 at 09:49 PM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    Okay ... where were you in 1985?

    1. Sparkle in my daddy's eye
    2. Looking at the new Minolta 7000 advertisement in some magazine at the school library
    3. Holding that sweet baby the week/month they released it.
    4. Still using non-AF technology, trying to get my money's worth out of it.


    Yeah, pop me for #3. It was like a dream come true.
    Starting college for me. Point and shoot film was about it for my photographic endeavors.
    Darin Wessel
    α 900
    Zooms: Tamron SP AF70-200mm f2.8 Di LD Macro; Sigma 28-90mm D macro, Konica-Minolta 18-70 f3.5-5.6
    Primes: Minolta 28mm f2.8; Sony 50mm f1.4
    Minolta RC-1000 remote commander

    Film:
    Calumet Cambo CC400 4x5 View Camera
    YashikaMat 6x6 TLR (other accessories)
    Minolta Maxxum 7000 w/ Minolta 35-80mm f/4-5.6 & Minolta 2800 flash
    Minolta Maxxum 5000i & Vivitar 728 AFM flash
    What's next???

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    I actually have a Minolta 7000. In 1985, I was shooting with a Canon point and shoot, tryng to afford enough film per year to shoot fewer shots than I take on a good day's assignment now. My, how technology has changed things.
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    Tamron 70-200 SP AF DI-LD 77mm, Tamron 70-300 58mm, Minolta AF 50, Minolta AF 100 55mm, Sigma 20-70 52mm, Tamron 200-400 77mm, Tamron 28-300 XR DI-LD 62mm, Tamron 28-80 58mm, Minolta AF 70-210 55mm, Tamron 1.4 teleconverter, Sony 75-300 55mm, Sony 18-70 55mm, Sigma EF 530 flash, Canon S3.
    Go Beavs!

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    I continue to believe you can convert the film savings into better equipment if you simply do the math:

    Roll of 36 shot = $7
    Print costs of 36 = $14
    That's $21!

    Average weekly shoot ... 108 shots ... 3 rolls ... $63

    $63 x 52 weeks ... $3276

    Of course, you have to subtract out printer/ink costs ... but, that may be a couple hundred bucks ... leaving you $3000 for gear.

    Hmmm, what Zeiss lens would that get you this Christmas? Go ahead and tell the S.O. all about the money you saved going from film to digital! She'll understand.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

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    That doesn't mean having a poor man's full frame (or fuller frame with a $150 medium format) isn't worth pulling out for a roll every couple of months.

    My primary use for 35mm is to have something super small to throw in a laptop bag when I don't feel like lugging around my full kit. And I don't really pay for prints like that either, I just have a lab process and scan, then printing is up to me. Most labs now aren't really doing anything other than scanning negatives and making prints with the same system they use to make digital prints.
    Jason Hamilton
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    EOS 5D - Canon EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM, EF 35 f/2, EF 50mm f/1.8 Mk II, EF 70-210 f/3.5-4.5 USM, EF 85mm f/1.8 USM, EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro, Helios 44-2 58mm f/2 (with EOS adapter), 430EX, Canon S90
    Nikon FE - Nikkor 35mm f/2 AI'd, Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 AI, Nikkor 105mm f/2.5 AI, F to EF adapter, 2xVivitar 285, other lighting stuff
    Mamiya C220 - 80mm f/2.8

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    I had a Minolta that year, but it wasn't AF, don't remember the model number. What I do remember is the cost when I returned from Israel/Italy trip with 19 rolls of 36 exposure film that I dropped off to be developed.
    Joe Holmes
    Sony α550
    Sony HVL-F42AM Flash
    Sony DT18-55 F3.5-5.6 (Kit Lens)
    Minolta Maxxum 50 1:1.7(22) Prime
    Minolta 35-70 F4 (Mini Beercan)
    Minolta 70-210 F4 (Beercan)
    Minolta 28-135 F4-4.5 (This beast is pretty heavy)
    Minolta Maxxum 100-200 F4.5
    Quantaray D28-90 1:3.5-5.6 Ver 5
    Tamron DiII 55-200 1:4.5-6

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    Jason,

    I was not straddling the generations of cameras, just basically looking at each from when they were in their hay-day. Scanning was not that practical or available 5 or 6 years ago.

    But, yeah ... go right ahead and de-fang the argument with a compromise.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

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