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  1. #31
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    congrats don. post up the 7 shots.
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    No way, "buddy" ... I did not pick them. They are sold and no longer mine.

    Thanks for wanting to see them, though.

    That reminds me ... I need to carry "Release" forms.

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    Man, it was so much easier when I didn't get paid. LOL
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    Where were they posted maybe we can see them online in there paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    No way, "buddy" ... I did not pick them. They are sold and no longer mine.

    Thanks for wanting to see them, though.

    That reminds me ... I need to carry "Release" forms.

    Man, it was so much easier when I didn't get paid. LOL
    oh...i see. you're starting to sound like rhys. lol i've done this for a while Don and i doubt that USA contract law is so vastly different from australia.

    you cant watermark them ? the basketball shot is already posted here is it not ? cw posts his commerical shots all the time. hell even joe mcnally posts his national geographic images on his blog. there is no restriction on them being posted on a forum because you are not seeking to make commercial gain from them outside of your existing contract, they are not posted of commercial quality, (hi res), and they do not compromise the commerical/ sellable property of the end user.

    if that's not the way you've set your contract up, then you've made a mistake. they are YOU'RE images after all. this is the case even with a exclusivity contract, which a local college paper is highly unlikely to demand anyway. the only time images are arguabley the exclusive property of the end user is if you have an employment contract with the end user or the end user provided the means by which the images were taken and without the end user's involvement, the images would not have been possible. ie: provision of the tools, exclusive access denied the public etc. hell thats actually what you;'re model release is DESIGNED for. to ensure that YOU have propriety over the images.

    the only time i can understand why people dont post images online is if they are of other peoples kids. i've got into a fair amount of trouble for doing that in the past and i'll never make that mistake again. this was not however a contractural issue, it was a personal view from the parents.
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    Are you really THAT interested? There is nothing spectacular in them, more illustrations to a story line.

    The important aspect is that my work was professionally used (not really the first time) and there was a real paycheck at the other end of it. In the past, there was no profit in it.

    To be honest, I'd enjoy it a lot more if I could pick the stories and subjects I shoot, but they do not pay much for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    Are you really THAT interested? There is nothing spectacular in them, more illustrations to a story line.

    The important aspect is that my work was professionally used (not really the first time) and there was a real paycheck at the other end of it. In the past, there was no profit in it.
    all i asked was to see them. lol i think its awesome that you earnt some money from photos. am i THAT interested ? not particularly. i just think it would be cool for you to show images that were published. if you dont want to post them thats cool, it's you're choice.

    what i was answering really was the reason you gave for not posting them and you're statement that they are no longer yours and it was easier when you werent getting paid. thats information that isnt correct or you should review the way you contract out your services in future. whether you get paid or not has absolutely no bearing on your freedom to post the images on a web forum or to promote your services in future. post them on a stock photo site...different story.

    i think thats an important point cos there could be members out there that get paid for a photo or are seeking to get payment for photos and don't know their rights. a photographer, even a part timer, should ALWAYS seek to retain ultimate rights over their images wherever possible.

    btw: just in case you haven't already guessed, i'm actually not that smart to have figured this out on my own. lol i got legal advice when i started my business...even though its very much part time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    No way, "buddy" ... I did not pick them. They are sold and no longer mine.

    Thanks for wanting to see them, though.
    Wait, what? You SOLD instead of granting limited license for the newspaper to use?

    Arrgh, Don, no, bad idea, especially with artistic property. If those pictures are ever re-used, you may not ever get credit for them again.
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    ya but you can shoot the guy that does...

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    Now I want to see them too lol.
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    Red face Published effort

    You guys are being a lot more interested than I feel these shots deserve.

    For the sake of argument, I render them w/o any choice of what got picked. The editors had complete control what shots were used and where.

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    Boots 2 - A fall/winter fashion statement
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    So there they are. Round 1.
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