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  1. #1
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    Lightbulb What the a700 represents ... right now

    Upon close examination, other than the extra wide capability of going full frame, what do you actually get by migrating from APS-C to FF?

    With respect to the a700, not a whole heck of a lot. The a700 has almost every single feature the a850/a900 DSLRs have, except for the "Intelligent Preview" and marginally useful (SONY/K-M/Minolta) "AF Micro Adjust." It also benefits from the convenience of the built-in flash. That is another $129 to add on, with the FF-frame cameras and not really all that convenient.

    Generally speaking, the Full Frame is a luxury item, for the most part. It really does not do all that much for the standard fair of lenses (24mm - 200mm) and only comes into play when using the wide PRIMEs (24mm or wider). If you do not use these, forget about it.

    The a700 offers nearly identical operation and for 1/3 the price. That is the real bargain, so if you do not snatch one of these up, before they are discontinued, you really missed out. You would basically have an a900 w/o the width. The a900 still sells for $2700 ... the a700 -> $850.

    I know this posting may sound hypocritcal, but it is not. I own BOTH cameras ... and after all the comparisons have been done, I still believe the return to the "standard frame" is the best way to enjoy the old glass, but to be honest ... in the face of this kind of bargain ... it is the a700 every day of the week. You just cannot get enough out of the Full Frame (in resolution) to justify spending $2000 more for it. There has to be more to make that move for that kind of cash. It is easy to see why there is a move afoot to eliminate the a700 from the inventory. With this kind of alternative ... the money rules.

    My advice: Get one if you can ... and be happy you saved the money.


    SOME Quick-Math from the Quick-Menu:

    a900 5fps/24.6 MP= $2699
    HVL-F20AM Compact Flash = $129

    Total: $2828

    a700 5fps/12.2 MP/Built-in Flash = $850 (B&H Video)

    & with the money you pocketed, you could get -> CZ 24-70mm f/2.8 (top of the line base zoom) = $1600

    Total: $2450

    Okay ... most excellent glass on your new high-end APS-C for less than just the FF-camera body. Now, that's a bargain! Go save some serious money ... while you STILL can.

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    i would never go back to a 700

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    That 700 is pretty darn cheap. Definitely a nice move for someone with an old A100 or other base model camera.
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    I've been debating selling my 40D and going to an old 5D Mk I. I would lose some glass to make that happen, and would be dropping to an older camera with inferior FPS, AF, menu system, and no dust reduction system.

    The other option is to get a good UWA zoom and just stick to crop for now. My 85/1.8 is an awful lot cheaper than the 135/2L I would have to buy to replace it on FF.

    Your post here Don makes me feel a little better about hanging onto the 40D for now.
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    Thumbs up Once you go FF ... stay FF

    Quote Originally Posted by SONYNUT View Post
    i would never go back to a 700
    Obviously, if you have already acquired an a900, there would be no gain. This proposal addresses those who might be considering some advantage to the Full Frame ... and without the . W-I-D-E . glass to go with it ... there just isn't enough to pass on a bargain of this magnitude.

    That's all I am saying, here.









    Imagine, THIS "Killer Combo" ...


    for same price as THIS (w/o the lens)
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    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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    Lightbulb Today's photography

    If we analyze the a700 and what it represents, versus the lesser SONY DSLRs, what you have is nearly the SAME tool as the upper echelon shooters of SONY have.

    There is no LiveView or Video. These were not even considered when the a700/a900 were designed, so to expect them is ... well, kind of silly.

    This camera is versatile enough to be completely operated from a remote location. There is no other camera doing this. You may ask, do I have a call for this ... well, maybe not at the moment, but the capability is undeniable. You, physically, do not need to be behind the viewfinder in a toxic, hazardous, or agitated environment to use your DSLR. That's a good trick!

    The camera can do all the main functions the modern photographer truly needs. When you reach for this unit ... it returns undeniably good results under normal conditions. If you stress the conditions a bit, it can often flex right with you (if you know what you are doing). Many of the intro-DSLRs cannot. Let's just say, "they are not made that way" and leave it at that.

    Two years ago, when the a700 was released, I suggested it was the camera everyone who was serious about their photography should just buy ... and not have to GROW through the lesser models. It had the whole package. I am still of that belief. This DSLR has the standard bases covered for still photography. That is a truly remarkable claim for $850.
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    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    why compromise..just bite the bullet and get the best..i'm just waiting on hd vid capable

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    Red face The time for a drawdown ...

    Well, the answer to that seems to be in the "root of all evil", Steve, as many of our members are a trifle strapped for the proverbial "big bucks."

    This is the Obama-Nation ... 3-million not only out of work, but also at the "wits-end" of unemployment roles. They are not hiring ... a compromise may be called for. The SONY α700 is a much easier and more achievable a tool at $850, than the α900 at nearly $3000.

    I'm just sayin' ...
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    Unemployment was caused by the Bush-Nation.
    We know you are not a fan of Obama but I don't see what it has to do in any of your responses.
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    Question What's love got to do with it?

    Excuse me, Elisha ... you are safely over the border, in Socialist-held Canada. You've already gone through the "transition", so you may not be feeling the raw angst and pain the rest of this "capitalist" society is enduring. Plagued by ignorance of what they have done, back in the 1990s, with Clinton's deft pen strokes, the American public is just now being wagged by the dog. Oh, we will get to the Canadian-status of standing in long lines or waiting until "death do us depart" for our medical services, but it will not be without a struggle and loud whimper. The Democrats have complete control of the steering wheel and we are on a nasty road, downhill ... without our wallet. It is a pain-filled ride ... and the "impact" that is coming will be felt for decades to come.

    How can any response ... concerning overall costs, not reflect this aspect of the socialism takeover? The "planned taxes", alone, will wipe out over 65% of the average American's income.

    Ask yourself (and asking you, specifically, to do this, is not really fair ... because it is not a question, it is a fact in Canada): "How much do I have left for glass?"

    Better yet, ask "ground zero" ... the "SO." I am absolutely positive, she will let ya know

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    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

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