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  1. #21
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    Cool Participation may come later ...

    There may be others who are simply biding their time, not giving away their intellectual advantage. Oct 1st, 2009 is the deadline. A lot of new DSLRs have yet to cast their lot ... and also join the forum

    Not many boards offering something like this, anyway. You usually have to buy this or that ... or, perhaps, invest BIG ol' bucks in non-stabilized camera bodies (wink wink nudge nudge). The contest, you simply have to show your moxie and produce a rather decent argument for an equipment upgrade. In other words, "do a sales job on the lens, based on two others for contrast." Cripes, I am also supplying background information. Life's good!
    Last edited by DonSchap; 09-13-2009 at 05:52 PM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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  2. #22
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    Question Why bother?

    Quote Originally Posted by jekostas View Post
    Don, stop taking my quotes out of context. It does not make you look intelligent or well-informed, it makes you look incredibly foolish. Hell, you even went so far as to cut and paste a quote from a completely different thread in to this one.

    I didn't advocate you buying anything - I responded to something incredibly foolish that you wrote saying that more glass is always better, even if it's garbage glass.

    Oh, and of COURSE something will compare well favourably to a $1500 Zeiss lens when you slap a $150 teleconverter on it.
    Your evaluation seems more than a bit contrite, 'jekostas', so I am simply ignore any further derogatory opinion on your behalf concerning my personal choices of the crystalline sand I use in my hobby.

    Thank you for your time.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

  3. #23
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    I'll take the KM 17-35mm if you decide to give it away!
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  4. #24
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    You got your deal, my friend ... now, play fair!
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

  5. #25
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    how many photos are taken of lens charts ? in don's case, alot. but in photographic terms ? zero. i dont know what the point is of you buying high quaility glass when you actually dont use it for its intended purpose.

    and b4 you go on your typical nonsensical rant, i suggest you reread what i suggested. i didnt tell you to sell the tokina and buy the sony.
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    Can't blame me for trying!
    I need a FF wide angle with a decent MFD.
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  7. #27
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    I did a search on ebay for the Km 17-35 there were none. Where can you get one? What do they cost? I used that lens for my sons wedding as some of you might know and it did a great job.

    Frank
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkie1263 View Post
    I did a search on ebay for the Km 17-35 there were none. Where can you get one? What do they cost? I used that lens for my sons wedding as some of you might know and it did a great job.

    Frank
    The only 17-35mm I'e been seeing are the G and they cost too much.
    The regular 17-35mm goes for anywhere between $200 - $350.
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  9. #29
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    I'm not planning on selling it. I have barely used it, yet. Geez louise.

    With the α700, I have the 17-50mm f/2.8 Di-II lens. You cannot use it as anything but a crop lens on the α850, hence the 17-35mm f/2.8-4 "D".
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

  10. #30
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    I have a thing against crop lenses unless it comes my way free of charge
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