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Thread: 10M F vs. 10M N

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    10M F vs. 10M N

    New to the forum, thanks for a great melting pot of info.

    An unbelievably silly question. In the quality settings of all of our digital cameras, in the maximum setting 10M for example, there are two selections. One is 10M F and the other is 10M N. Can someone please explain the difference?

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    Steve.

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    What camera is that?
    My guess is that F = Fine, N = Normal. Fine will give the best possible quality.
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    Thank you for that. Interesting thing, is that both show the same rez, yet F does show that I have only half as many pics left to shoot than N.

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    Sometimes superfine is an option too
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    Yes. Both are 10 MP but it's the compression rate that makes them different. N quality use compression rate more aggressively to reduce the size of the files and the trade off is image quality. Just remember that MegaPixel is just the physical size of the image not quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbbab View Post
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    An unbelievably silly question. ...
    BTW: this isn't a silly question, everyone has to live and learn.
    Nikon D90, D80
    Nikkor 16-85mm AF-S DX F/3.5-5.6G ED VR, Tamron SP AF 28-75mm F/2.8 XR Di LD Aspherical (IF) macro, Nikkor 50mm F/1.4D, Nikkor 50mm F/1.8D, Nikkor AF-S VR 70-300mm F/4.5-5.6G IF-ED, Sigma 105mm F/2.8 EX DG Macro ||| 2x SB800 | SB600 ||| Manfrotto 190XB

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    Thanks tim11, for all comments. It's on all of our cameras. So it is clear then, that the best will always be F is the choices are F and N.

    Thanks, once again.
    Steve.

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    Leading off from that, then, although MegaPixel is not quality, just size, it must in fact have a say in the quality of the output. ie. 10M is better than 5M, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbbab View Post
    Leading off from that, then, although MegaPixel is not quality, just size, it must in fact have a say in the quality of the output. ie. 10M is better than 5M, right?
    Larger MP isn't always better. Technically, we can make larger prints from larger MP providing the image quality is good; otherwise you will see all the flaws in the large prints.
    MegaPixel is just the size of the image. The quality of the photos come from the lens and (quality and size of) sensor; not size of image alone. In general, point and shoot cameras have small sensors compare to DSLR cameras.
    Manufacturers mislead consumers to think bigger MP is better and this result in 10MP+ (from about 5 - 6 MP) in the last few years while the size of sensor only slightly improves.
    For all the 10MP+ size, most people only print 6x4" so we sacrifice real quality for the huge MP that we don't really need.
    Nikon D90, D80
    Nikkor 16-85mm AF-S DX F/3.5-5.6G ED VR, Tamron SP AF 28-75mm F/2.8 XR Di LD Aspherical (IF) macro, Nikkor 50mm F/1.4D, Nikkor 50mm F/1.8D, Nikkor AF-S VR 70-300mm F/4.5-5.6G IF-ED, Sigma 105mm F/2.8 EX DG Macro ||| 2x SB800 | SB600 ||| Manfrotto 190XB

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    Thanks tim11. Well, with the S2000HD and S8100FD, point and shoot seems to be where it's at for me for now. Maybe a DSLR in a year once I get a little more used to the digital world. they seem to have ok output. As far as I can tell, as good as anything I ever got from the 35mm SLR's that are now shelved.

    Very informative, thanks again!
    Steve.

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