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  1. #21
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    I have to ask - what did you use for HDRs?
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    Red face HDR manipulation

    Why? The entire point of the image was just to improve the result ... did it work for you?
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    Why? The entire point of the image was just to improve the result ... did it work for you?
    No.

    The first one is badly overexposed, especially on the blue channel.

    The second, well... perhaps there's not a whole lot you could do with the second but a polarizer would've done wonders for that shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkie1263 View Post
    What about the Aperture? How do you guess that? This is all hit and miss to me. I am finding out that the images come out much better when you dial everything in right.

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    Frank, I don't see where you're going with this one, apart from making it difficult for yourself.
    Using full manual is fine for some specialised shots like Fireworks or a shot mixing ambient with flash.
    Otherwise you should be using [A]perture priority or [S]hutter priority modes.
    Or am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peekayoh View Post
    Frank, I don't see where you're going with this one, apart from making it difficult for yourself.
    Using full manual is fine for some specialised shots like Fireworks or a shot mixing ambient with flash.
    Otherwise you should be using [A]perture priority or [S]hutter priority modes.
    Or am I missing something?
    I always use Aperture mode but though it would be better to have full control. I am just trying to learn more about exposure. I am board because there is nothing left to shoot around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkie1263 View Post
    I always use Aperture mode but though it would be better to have full control. I am just trying to learn more about exposure. I am board because there is nothing left to shoot around here.

    Frank
    Err, not always. There's really nothing wrong with letting the camera's brain do some work for you, as long as you keep a leash on it.
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    Frank, I'm sorry but I find that faintly ridiculous; as Jekostas more or less said, let your expensive camera get on with it's job.

    You said you normally use [A]perture Priority Mode; that's good, you've chosen Aperture and ISO and now the camera will give you it's best guess at a shutter speed needed for correct exposure. What's wrong with that? The only other way is by trial and error or buy an exposure meter like everyone had to at one time.

  8. #28
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    I understand now.
    Thanks
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    Frank, you're a man of few words. Sometimes it's hard to know how to help but

    [S]hutter Priority allows you to control Motion blur
    [A]perture priority allows you to control DOF and sharpness

    So for instance you recently posted pics of Angelina at the miniature golf.
    Angelina was her usual cute self but the backgrounds are a bit of a distraction. Restricting the DOF is a great way of concentrating the attention on Angelina.

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    You took this at 70mm,,ISO200,,f8,,1/800 and the DOF is substantial.
    Change settings to 70mm,,ISO100,,f4,,1/1600. At 15ft the DOF would be about 2ft in total.
    Asking your Daughter to move to her left would have removed the legs from the FOV.



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    You took this one at 18mm,,ISO200,,f8,,1/320 this has enormous DOF at that focal length so you need to increase the magnification.
    Step back, zoom to 50/70mm,,ISO100,,f4,,1/640 which at 12/15 feet will again reduce the DOF to 2feet or so.

    If you know all this already then this is all a lot of hot air. If not, instead of fiddling around in full manual, choose [A] and see if you can get Angelina really popping out of the frame.

  10. #30
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    A man of a few words. LOL Ask the wife that. Thanks for the lesson. I will try too remember this next time. I do try to control the DOF only on some images. I have alot to learn.

    Thanks again
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