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    Lightbulb Anticipation ...

    It can drive you mad, but waiting for the new upgrade for the A700 is rather annoying. There are so many things that can be improved upon, without even broaching the subject of built-in video nonsense or GPS.

    My biggest concerns are:
    • Adding a better (more AF points, in better groupings) and faster focusing system
    • Having more range control over noise issues (1600+)
    • maintaining compatibility with the existing vertical grip
    • Ratio control over remote flash units
    • HSS with the built-in flash
    • Micro adjust (for Rooz) that works for all lenses, not just SONY (this might begin to solve some film-lens issues)
    • Active DOF calculator
    • Better compatibility identifying lenses mounted on it. (Let's face it, there are only so many SONY-mount lenses out there )


    You may add you own thoughts to this posting and I hope you do. The A700 was kick-butt start to the really workable system, but we ain't there, yet.

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    I just scooped up one of the A200 closeout deals. My first DSLR. I know the A200 is not a current design, possibly the newer jobs have already fixed these issues. But my wish list includes:

    Menu system that was not done by somebody who is hopelessly color blind!!!

    4:3 image format option

    Move those dedicated buttons on the top around to the back.

    Otherwise, it's a darned practical camera.

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    Wish list sounds good, but again, I'd have to disagree and say a movie mode is not nonsense and I guarantee you Sony will have it in their next camera (or at least hope they live up to their word).
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    My Wish List........

    I would like to think we will see micro adjustment in the body that replaces the 700.

    I find that the motor that drives the lenses out of the body of the 700 a bit slow with the older film lenses from Minolta compared to a few of the film bodies. I would like to see a stronger screw drive motor in the next camera. Wishful thinking as I'm sure as more SSM lenses are on the horizon.

    Better photos of higher ISO/ASA noise. Noise from Sony is much worst than it has to be. With high iso if set your tonal curve to linear increase exposure and clip black levels really seems to help. This has a tendency to crush deep shadows to black and compress the rest of the image a bit closer to linear and seems to remove quite a bit of noise that is so obvious in the shadows. If Sony intends to compete with some of the others, (no names mentioned), it really needs to get a grip on this.

    Better jpeg images straight out of the camera. The Minolta 5 and 7 D did a very decent or good job at this. Why cant Sony?

    Lastly, the ability to completely turn off screw drive and SSM focus drive. This would be useful for macro photographers. At power up the Sony resets to infinity focus every time even in manual focus mode. I have found that if you use a very thin piece of shim stock between the male and female connectors of the camera and lens you can stop this issue with screw drive lenses. Well until the male part eventually drills a hole through the shim stock. With film cameras, the 7,9 and 9Ti do this with SSM lenses but with older screw drive lenses they do not.

    Thanks guys for letting me share,
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4gon View Post
    Wish list sounds good, but again, I'd have to disagree and say a movie mode is not nonsense and I guarantee you Sony will have it in their next camera (or at least hope they live up to their word).
    Ryan, video may make sense to you. Personally ... I do not miss it .. and its not being in my DSLR. I didn't miss it not being being my film-SLR, either. I bought these cameras to do one thing and one thing well ... take STILL images. If I wanted a "movie" camera ... I would have bought one. I'd be happy if they just improved the darn sensor ... so I can not only focus in the dark without a focus-assist lamp, but also produce a noise-free image that can be enhanced with some software ... from bare discernable to printer ready brightness, in color, no less. That's my kind of improvement that really makes sense.

    AJ ... thanks for the contribution and your thoughts on this subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    Ryan, video may make sense to you. Personally ... I do not miss it .. and its not being in my DSLR. I didn't miss it not being being my film-SLR, either. I bought these cameras to do one thing and one thing well ... take STILL images. If I wanted a "movie" camera ... I would have bought one. I'd be happy if they just improved the darn sensor ... so I can not only focus in the dark without a focus-assist lamp, but also produce a noise-free image that can be enhanced with some software ... from bare discernable to printer ready brightness, in color, no less. That's my kind of improvement that really makes sense.

    AJ ... thanks for the contribution and your thoughts on this subject.
    I'm just personalizing your wishlist. We've been through this a hundred times. A consumer hand-held HD camcorder will not give you the control of DOF as a DSLR would give. Obviously an SLR isn't the best solution for home movies, but better suited towards filmaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    If I wanted a "movie" camera ... I would have bought one.
    well by your logic if you want a "still" camera, why dont you just buy a canon ixus ?
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    Merciful lord ... I know you guys FULLY understand my contention, here, and are just yanking my chain.

    Wasting valuable card space with miniature vignettes seems counter-productive. I hardly have enough room in my storage for the standard stuff, let alone memory gulping movies. Nah ... I mean what I say. Just the pics ... with an IMPROVED A700 would be nice. Don't tempt me to waste even more cash trying to expand my already burdened system with more crap.

    Hey Rooz ... you going to pop for the new SONY when they release it? Might be a real fun change.
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    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

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    if they put a FF sensor into one with inbody IS at under $1k with movie mode...never say never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    Merciful lord ... I know you guys FULLY understand my contention, here, and are just yanking my chain.

    Wasting valuable card space with miniature vignettes seems counter-productive. I hardly have enough room in my storage for the standard stuff, let alone memory gulping movies. Nah ... I mean what I say. Just the pics ... with an IMPROVED A700 would be nice. Don't tempt me to waste even more cash trying to expand my already burdened system with more crap.

    Hey Rooz ... you going to pop for the new SONY when they release it? Might be a real fun change.
    You have a 32GB card, I have a 16GB card and I'm pretty sure you don't fill it up. I can barely clutter my 16GB to even half capacity. Memory cards are cheap. But the pictures and movies you could potentially capture are priceless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rooz View Post
    if they put a FF sensor into one with inbody IS at under $1k with movie mode...never say never.
    I'd say Don would never buy it on account of the movie mode... ahahha!
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