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  1. #51
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    Good luck, Frank ... remember to test indoors. Almost anything can shoot in the bright sunlight. Even photosensitive pitch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    Good luck, Frank ... remember to test indoors. Almost anything can shoot in the bright sunlight. Even photosensitive pitch!
    ahhhh...isnt that actually franks point ?? the sony struggles indoors in low light.
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    hmm.......maybe it's just me but these Sony's latest crops look like point and shoot?
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    I think I prefer the old look. Anyone else with me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkie1263 View Post
    My next lens maybe a Canon. I am getting tired of waiting for Sony to make a move to address the noise issue. I may just get a Canon and start over. I am happy with my A100 but have been waiting to move up and all they put out in March was a few lenses. Then all they did was make a few body mods and nothing to replace the A700. I have alot of thinking to do. Good thing I am not ready to buy right now. I may borrow my friends Canon and take it for a test drive this weekend.

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    I would suggest waiting to see what the A700's replacement will be. I think Sony has a lot riding on this one. Whenever Nikon releases the D400, Sony will have something similar I suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim11 View Post
    hmm.......maybe it's just me but these Sony's latest crops look like point and shoot?
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    I think I prefer the old look. Anyone else with me?
    I like the older look, but it is interesting to me that the new bodies are shaped a bit more like SLRs of days past, with a more centered design, and less of a right hand grip.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkie1263 View Post
    My next lens maybe a Canon. I am getting tired of waiting for Sony to make a move to address the noise issue. I may just get a Canon and start over. I am happy with my A100 but have been waiting to move up and all they put out in March was a few lenses. Then all they did was make a few body mods and nothing to replace the A700. I have alot of thinking to do. Good thing I am not ready to buy right now. I may borrow my friends Canon and take it for a test drive this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4gon View Post
    What, you too?

    I would suggest waiting to see what the A700's replacement will be. I think Sony has a lot riding on this one. Whenever Nikon releases the D400, Sony will have something similar I suspect.
    Like I said, the lack of announcements at PMA was one of the last straws for me.

    Frank, I would also seriously think about Nikon. It is a very tough choice between the two. And I personally think the best thing to do is pick up the cameras and hold them, shoot with them. Think about how they would be in your workflow. The A300 beat out the Rebel and D60 on that level, but the 40D beat out the D90 and A700 for me. I like the simple/minimal layout of the Canon, and I far prefer the grip on the 40D/50D to anything else I have held. However a lot of people think Nikon has the best layout and ergonomics. Sony gets bonus points for having the best button set on vertical grip.

    Canon wins on lens selection. There are very few lenses on any platform that they don't have an equal to, and almost always cheaper. The best example is the 24-70 f/2.8, Canon sells for around $1100 when Nikon and Sony sell for around $1500+.

    I'm currently trying to decide on a crop "normal" prime and there are f/2.8 24 and 28, f/1.8 28USM, f/2 35mm, plus a couple of highly regarded Sigmas, including the 30/1.4 HSM.

    However, lots of people have gone Nikon lately, and with good reason.

    And (not that I'm wishy-washy or anything) Sony may have something nice coming with the A700 replacement.
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    I am going to give it a little more time to see what they come out with to replace the A700. I am not in a hurry to get one yet but Sony has let me down with no A700 replacement. I don't know why Sony has to wait to see what everybody else is doing. He who hesitates is lose. I don't like the look of the new bodies look also. Hope they make some moves soon.

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    there will be an update to the a700 soon i imagine, its not that old. it came out the same time as the d300 which doesn't have a replacement either. the concerning thing is that usually new models signal a systems intention and direction, even if the are lower models. the fact that these newer models offer nothing new is a concern. one would have thought video and a better flip screen would have been staple inclusions.

    case in point ? look at the pentax K7. they knocked it out of the park.
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    I did a search and found this. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=31912444 I am going to read more.
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    I am going to give it a little more time to see what they come out with to replace the A700. I am not in a hurry to get one yet but Sony has let me down with no A700 replacement. I don't know why Sony has to wait to see what everybody else is doing. He who hesitates is lose. I don't like the look of the new bodies look also. Hope they make some moves soon.
    I wouldn't sweat it too much. The Olympus E-3, Nikon D300, and Sony A700 were all released about the same time, and neither has been replaced yet. You should only really switch for lenses/system strengths/long term trends, in my mind. If you have been happy with the system so far you'll continue to be happy with it. Sony hasn't been around long enough to establish a trend yet, the A700 follow up will do that. Except the A100 -> A200 -> A230 (down and down again), but the A700 is presumably different. But for sure I wouldn't be looking to Sony if I preferred entry-level DSLRs.

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