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  1. #1
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    Jesus....Sod damn conflicted

    So I'm now stationed (US Navy) at our base's Public Affairs Office (i.e. newspaper) and they shoot Nikon.
    They have loads of lenses, the best being an old 80-200 f/2.8 and a 17-35 f/2.8, 16 f/2.8 fisheye, and a lot of small flashes.
    The two main bodies are a D300 & D200 with a D1X nearly put to pasture.

    I shoot Canon (40D, 70-200 f/2.8L, 50 f/1.8, 18-55IS, 580EX, 580EXII)
    but I'm not incredibly invested in it.
    I love the layout and displays compared to Nikon--reversed opinion, I know-- I just can't get past the silly way Nikon displays the shooting info:


    Is this something you get used too? The funny 4oo for ISO, and 6o, and F1.4?

    I'd be getting a D700 to take advantage of the FX sensor and DX crop option.
    I wish Canon would do this.
    I get the best of both worlds with it.
    I also would like to explore the multiple exposure option, something I don't think I can do natively with the 40D.

    Joe McNally really pushed Nikon on me, giving me many reasons to change over, and demonstrating the robust build and awesome wireless flash opportunities. He let me play wit the D3 and that thing was a dream. His wife had a D3X out but I was nearly intimidated to use it.

    Just to be sure: the 70-200 f/2.8VR on the D700 can be used in DX cropped mode to give me an effective 105-300 f/2.8VR. I don't mind the pixel loss, our paper only prints a single image at largest, A4.

    As of now, the only reason I'd stick with Canon is: familiarity, cheaper used/new gear, normal looking menus?

    I like the fast change of AF modes, and multiple scroll wheels.
    No large quick dial....

    God! I just don't like sitting on fences, I can sell my 40D, 580EX, and 70-200L for a D700, then get myself some lenses gradually.
    I can borrow the 80-200 and 17-35 for a while.

    Any ideas or suggestions
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    I believe a change of format would take some getting use to it but you WOULD get used to it.


    My suggestion (which may be a bad one)... But maybe rent a D700 and use it for a while. See if you think you can warm up to it. It would suck to make the switch just to learn that the format wont grow on you and you prefer the stick with the 40D.


    Im pretty sire the 70-200 f/2.8 is a full frame lens so you wouldnt need the crop mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheObiJuan View Post
    Just to be sure: the 70-200 f/2.8VR on the D700 can be used in DX cropped mode to give me an effective 105-300 f/2.8VR. I don't mind the pixel loss, our paper only prints a single image at largest, A4.
    Or you could not change the settings and shoot the 70-200 at full resolution and get the exact same photo. That's up to you though.

    As for selling the Canon stuff and going Nikon... Well, you are obviously acking a bias crowd here, but I say if you like how the Nikons works and you feel that you can not get the same thing from Canon, then switch. If you dont like the Nikon stuff you would be better off buying a 5D and using your 70-200, 50, and ditching the 18-55 for a 17-40/4.
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    you can reverse the +/- indicators so they are normal, not the retarded default system nikon has. the rest of it is pretty easy to use and i dont think you'll have any issues. i find the menu system far easier and more intuitive to use.

    what you will miss if you switch....85/1.8, 35/1.4, 70-200/4IS. if you dont use them or want them, you;re golden. my little tryst with canon was because of that glass but in the end, it wasnt enuf to have to put up with the body. i still dream of the 35L though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3g View Post
    I believe a change of format would take some getting use to it but you WOULD get used to it.


    My suggestion (which may be a bad one)... But maybe rent a D700 and use it for a while. See if you think you can warm up to it. It would suck to make the switch just to learn that the format wont grow on you and you prefer the stick with the 40D.


    Im pretty sire the 70-200 f/2.8 is a full frame lens so you wouldnt need the crop mode.
    That's a great idea. I'll see about renting one for a week, first I'll get to know the D300/D200 fully so I can best make use of my time with the D700.

    I want the crop mode so I can get an effective longer focal length without having to crop out of camera. This allows me to frame my shot in camera and see in the viewfinder what I want, without needing to crop heavily later in post.
    US Navy--Hooyah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooz View Post
    you can reverse the +/- indicators so they are normal, not the retarded default system nikon has. the rest of it is pretty easy to use and i dont think you'll have any issues. i find the menu system far easier and more intuitive to use.

    what you will miss if you switch....85/1.8, 35/1.4, 70-200/4IS. if you dont use them or want them, you;re golden. my little tryst with canon was because of that glass but in the end, it wasnt enuf to have to put up with the body. i still dream of the 35L though...
    Yeah, the +/- indicators is another oddity I found. It's good to know I can change them.
    I don't mind spending for the 85 f/1.4, the 35 f/1.4 doesn't appeal to me and I'd get a 70-200 f/2.8

    I guess I'll just wait it out and see how it goes.
    US Navy--Hooyah!

    Nikon D700/D300|17-35 f/2.8, 24-70 f/2.8, Sigmalux, 80-200 f/2.8, 16 f/2.8 fisheye,

    Lots of flashes and Honl gear.

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    In case you didn't realise it that shot would be grossly over exposed.


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    Not sure why you want to switch, unless Joe convinced you it would be worth while. You seem to have a good setup now. But then again the D700 may well be worth the cost of entry... it would be my choice. Cropping won't be an issue with the 70-200 it's not DX.
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    I would want to switch because the US Navy, my employer, uses Nikon since lenses they've had since 1938 will work and because of brand loyalty.
    I also like the D700 review, but at that price I could grab a 5DMkII.
    I dunno, I guess after a few weeks of getting to know the D300 I will be able to determine if shooting with one is more streamline than the other.

    I'd prefer to do as little in PS as possible, the D700 with auto d-lighting, CA correction, multiple exposures, and etc seem to be nice.

    CS4 should be able to open the D700 RAW files, right?
    Last edited by TheObiJuan; 05-12-2009 at 07:07 PM.
    US Navy--Hooyah!

    Nikon D700/D300|17-35 f/2.8, 24-70 f/2.8, Sigmalux, 80-200 f/2.8, 16 f/2.8 fisheye,

    Lots of flashes and Honl gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheObiJuan View Post
    CS4 should be able to open the D700 RAW files, right?
    as long as the latest version of ACR is installed.

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