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  1. #1
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    Wireless Flash Trigger

    So I ordered one of these: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=150342668007

    There was a discussion on it on Flickr and the seller only had the non Sony mount transmitter listed. I messaged him and he replied back with the Item # for the Sony transmitter he just listed and i purchased immediately.
    Apparently it can sync the sb24 up to 1/250 with these triggers.
    Now i'll have to look for some cheapo flashes to play with.
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    I think you would have to sync all these manually is that right?

    It looks like you could have it sync with a Sony camera and a Nikon or Canon flash? (manually of course)
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    Kinda cool, those get good reviews too.

    Yes it means that Nikon or Sony (or Vivitar or Sunpak) flashes can be used with it. A sync cord plugged into the A700 or A900, or a minolta hotshoe to PC converter will allow you to do the same.

    I picked up the Cactus v4 last month, and so far it has worked very well. I've got one 430EX and I just bought a Vivitar 285HV off craigslist yesterday. Its frikking huge, and looks like its from the stone age, but it works, and from most of what I have read, it is powerful and very reliable.

    Probably the best flashes to get now are the Lumo 120s from mpex.com. That gives you optical slave, sync ports, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4gon View Post
    I think you would have to sync all these manually is that right?

    It looks like you could have it sync with a Sony camera and a Nikon or Canon flash? (manually of course)
    no clue on the first one....i wanted wireless triggers so i bought these. not sure how to use them yet.

    as for the second part, yes i would be able to use any flash that mounts on a standard hotshoe but preferably something with manual controls that is tiltable.
    i think the most popular ones are the Vivitar 283 and 285HV and the Lumo 120s looks pretty good as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4gon View Post
    I think you would have to sync all these manually is that right?
    Yep, no TTL. Pocket Wizard now offers TTL on the newest models, but compatible only with Canon and Nikon (not sure if the Nikon version is out yet, funny since the strobist movement leans Nikon.)

    The only way to get TTL with wireless besides those expensive new pocket wizards is with optical wireless. On Nikon and Sony that involves using the pop-up flash, and on Canon you have to buy either a $200 controller, or one of the more expensive ($500) flashes to control the others.

    David Hobby at strobist seems pretty happy with manual control. That school of thought prefers it. However I'm currently reading Joe McNally's "Hot Shoe Diaries" and he pretty highly prefers Nikon's CLS wireless system, which does use TTL.

    BTW, I highly recommend the McNally book, even if you aren't all that interested in off-camera flash. He really walks through his thought process on shots, and its a fun read.
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    Yeah Nikon's CLS is just like Sony's wireless flash.

    I think PW is going to release the Nikon one soon.
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    Canon's is too, but Nikon and Sony can use the pop-up flash. Nikon gimps the lowest end cameras (D40/D60) so they can't work with the CLS system.

    I really like the fact that the D700 comes with a pop-up flash, unlike the 5D and A900, allowing it to run wireless without anything extra.
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    Nikon FE - Nikkor 35mm f/2 AI'd, Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 AI, Nikkor 105mm f/2.5 AI, F to EF adapter, 2xVivitar 285, other lighting stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by laydros View Post
    Yep, no TTL. Pocket Wizard now offers TTL on the newest models, but compatible only with Canon and Nikon (not sure if the Nikon version is out yet, funny since the strobist movement leans Nikon.)

    However I'm currently reading Joe McNally's "Hot Shoe Diaries" and he pretty highly prefers Nikon's CLS wireless system, which does use TTL.
    those new PW's are having a number of teething problems at the moment apparently. mcnally used ttl cos he's lazy. which is great cos i can say that joe and i share at least one thing in common.
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    McNally has a bit of an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" attitude about it. The problem is, he ends up putting the transmitter on a sync cable and running it all over the place to get line of sight for the optical sensors. It's kinda dumb. Almost makes me wonder if he really shot with a PW, then pretended he did it with CLS since the book is obviously Noink sponsored.

    TTL is great, but sometimes not worth it.
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    Nikon FE - Nikkor 35mm f/2 AI'd, Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 AI, Nikkor 105mm f/2.5 AI, F to EF adapter, 2xVivitar 285, other lighting stuff
    Mamiya C220 - 80mm f/2.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by laydros View Post
    McNally has a bit of an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" attitude about it. The problem is, he ends up putting the transmitter on a sync cable and running it all over the place to get line of sight for the optical sensors. It's kinda dumb. Almost makes me wonder if he really shot with a PW, then pretended he did it with CLS since the book is obviously Noink sponsored.

    TTL is great, but sometimes not worth it.
    definately CLS. watch the video.
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