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  1. #31
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    well...i dont think you do know it actualy. dof has nothing to do with the brand. it is literally a mathematical equation applicable to any lens of any brand. http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

    image quality is a totally separate issue. i think you are referring to "bokeh" which is how a lens renders the out of focus backgrounds. i would cease listening to what people say in forums as a good starting point. (except this one of course lol)
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    Keep the extra lens for a while.

    Take some time to get to know the good and bad points of each. You might regret selling it for the small amount you'll get and the hastle vs having it for the times you might want it.

    I'd only sell a lens that you have completely replaced with better glass. Not just replaced part of the focal length.

    Brand name doesn't make IQ better than non brand name. Not by default anyway. Everyone has good and bad products in their range.
    D800, D300, D90, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200VR f2.8, 300 F4, 105 micro, 16-85VR, 50mm 1.8, Tammy 90 macro, 70-300VR, SB900, 2xSB600, MB-D10, 055XPROB 322RC2. New computers to run photoshop faster. C&C always appreciated. PhotoGallery
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  3. #33
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    Well Nikkor lenses tend to be better than 3rd party ones, but there are crap Nikkors too, and 3rd party ones which outperform Nikkors. Nikkor's tend to be the most expensive, but occasionally the likes of Sigma release something even higher grade and more expensive than Nikon's too. There's no real rule of thumb beyond to say just do your research, check other peoples photos and what they produce, find and read reviews.. as many as you can, and importantly, go into a shop and if they have it in stock check it out for yourself.
    Cameras: Nikon D300, Panasonic Lumix G2, LX3 & FZ20
    Nikkor Lenses: 24-70mm f2.8 - 70-300mm VRII f4.5-5.6 - 50mm f1.4 G - 35mm f1.8 G - 50mm f1.8 - 18-200mm VR f3.5-5.6
    Other Lenses: Tokina: 11-16mm f2.8, Sigma: 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 Macro, Lumix: 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 & 20mm f1.7
    Other: Nikon SB 600, Vivitar 1/2/4 Close-up Lens, Cokin Graduated ND Filter and more...
    Computers/Software: MacBookPro 2.8ghz, Dell Latitude D630, Lexar CF UDMA FW800 Reader, Nikon Capture NX 1+2, Adobe Lightroom 1+2+3

  4. #34
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    Every lens is a compromise too. So there cannot ever be one best lens.

    zoom range
    sharpness/resolution
    clarity
    CA
    vignetting
    build quality
    price
    bokeh
    snob value
    appeture
    sharpness at diff apperture

    What did I miss?
    D800, D300, D90, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200VR f2.8, 300 F4, 105 micro, 16-85VR, 50mm 1.8, Tammy 90 macro, 70-300VR, SB900, 2xSB600, MB-D10, 055XPROB 322RC2. New computers to run photoshop faster. C&C always appreciated. PhotoGallery
    Pressing the shutter is the start of the process - Joe McNally ... Buying the body is the start of the process - Dread Pirate

  5. #35
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    Cameras: Nikon D300, Panasonic Lumix G2, LX3 & FZ20
    Nikkor Lenses: 24-70mm f2.8 - 70-300mm VRII f4.5-5.6 - 50mm f1.4 G - 35mm f1.8 G - 50mm f1.8 - 18-200mm VR f3.5-5.6
    Other Lenses: Tokina: 11-16mm f2.8, Sigma: 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 Macro, Lumix: 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 & 20mm f1.7
    Other: Nikon SB 600, Vivitar 1/2/4 Close-up Lens, Cokin Graduated ND Filter and more...
    Computers/Software: MacBookPro 2.8ghz, Dell Latitude D630, Lexar CF UDMA FW800 Reader, Nikon Capture NX 1+2, Adobe Lightroom 1+2+3

  6. #36
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    Oh for example I'd love a Nikkor 70-200VR. Rooz sold his.

    That reminds, size and weight are another couple tradeoffs.
    D800, D300, D90, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200VR f2.8, 300 F4, 105 micro, 16-85VR, 50mm 1.8, Tammy 90 macro, 70-300VR, SB900, 2xSB600, MB-D10, 055XPROB 322RC2. New computers to run photoshop faster. C&C always appreciated. PhotoGallery
    Pressing the shutter is the start of the process - Joe McNally ... Buying the body is the start of the process - Dread Pirate

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dread Pirate Roberts View Post
    Every lens is a compromise too. So there cannot ever be one best lens.

    ...cut...
    snob value
    ...cut...
    appeture
    sharpness at diff apperture

    What did I miss?
    You missed your spell checker.. Aperture! Not appeture...

    And yes snob value is indeed top priority from the check list

    But yeah DPR is right, there is no such thing as the perfect lens.
    Cameras: Nikon D300, Panasonic Lumix G2, LX3 & FZ20
    Nikkor Lenses: 24-70mm f2.8 - 70-300mm VRII f4.5-5.6 - 50mm f1.4 G - 35mm f1.8 G - 50mm f1.8 - 18-200mm VR f3.5-5.6
    Other Lenses: Tokina: 11-16mm f2.8, Sigma: 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 Macro, Lumix: 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 & 20mm f1.7
    Other: Nikon SB 600, Vivitar 1/2/4 Close-up Lens, Cokin Graduated ND Filter and more...
    Computers/Software: MacBookPro 2.8ghz, Dell Latitude D630, Lexar CF UDMA FW800 Reader, Nikon Capture NX 1+2, Adobe Lightroom 1+2+3

  8. #38
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    Thanks, don't tell my english teacher mother.
    D800, D300, D90, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200VR f2.8, 300 F4, 105 micro, 16-85VR, 50mm 1.8, Tammy 90 macro, 70-300VR, SB900, 2xSB600, MB-D10, 055XPROB 322RC2. New computers to run photoshop faster. C&C always appreciated. PhotoGallery
    Pressing the shutter is the start of the process - Joe McNally ... Buying the body is the start of the process - Dread Pirate

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