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  1. #31
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    Yes, no, no,no,no... no. (well I got a bit carried away at the end).

    You should definitely consider the F58AM flash. The Tamron 28-75, no, you got it covered, 24-105, no, even Don warned about pitfalls of this lens. CZ135, now you're thinking....

    200-500, do you really need the extra 100mm? That extra 100mm is the softest part of that glass. It's like the 70-300 you have versus the 70-200mm.

    VG? That's more of a personal choice depending on your shooting style. And the A800 is likely to use the same VG-C70AM grip, so it might be a good investment if that is the case.

    What's your budget for new toys?
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    Remember ... the 200-500mm f/5-6.3 has a M.F.D. of 10-feet.

    And no, it is not all THAT soft at 500mm. Geez. Try one and find out. It is sharper than the Tokina, but it is a good fight ... and I had the Tokina first!
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    okay, maybe not that soft, but for what it's worth.

    Sigma 70-300 canon review to compare (probably close to our tamron)
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    Just to spare the overall, this is straight from the sight and I concur with the findings ... and they are even better on the A700's 12MP sensor.

    "Verdict

    The Tamron AF SP 200-500mm f/5-6.3 Di LD (IF) is a very interesting representative of its (rare) species. The performance figures are generally on a very high level - very good between 200-400mm and still good to very good at 500mm. The level of distortions is exceptionally low throughout the range and vignetting is nothing to worry about on an APS-C DSLR. Add the very good build quality on top combined with the very moderate price tag and you've an attractive package here. The only thing that is missing here is an image stabilizer.
    (The SONY DSLR has SSS, so you are missing nothing ... this lens was the very reason I sold off my Canon DSLR) Handheld photography is often doomed at such extreme focal lengths due to the need for very fast shutter speeds. An extra support such as a monopod or tripod is surely a good idea - otherwise you'll waste much of the quality potential that this lens can give you."
    Last edited by DonSchap; 04-06-2009 at 01:06 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanhoxx View Post
    Always more things to think about when trying to set up a lens collection! it's to bad money has to go into the factoring eh! Well as I spent the weekend working a huge event including a 17 hr shift on Saturday my camera fund will take a nice big jump. and I have a few other shows on schedule. So time to really start looking and asking for advice guys! The 58 flash? do i really need the tamron 35-70? What about a 24-105, Don has had problems? Can't pop for CZ135 this year, have to wait a month or two before the tamron 200-500? Do I get a VG or wait and see if a new body really is on the way? LOL choices choices!!
    I still wonder about that 24-05 though. Don obviously got a very bad one. I have read some really good reviews about it, and it seems like the ideal range. Plus for $200 for an almost new one, it seems worth trying.

    I'd also vote for the 58, and against the 200-500 for now. It sounds like a great lens, but how many shots are you going to get that you can't get with the Tokina?

    I'd say dump the 70-210 and teh Tamron 70-300, and get a beercan. That along with the 70-200 f/2.8 and the Tokina 80-400 gives you everything you could want out of telephoto. (maybe keep the Tamron 70-300 if you want something light)

    Maybe that fancy macro that dr4gon just got. thats one thing missing from your kit. Sounds like a really nice lens, his images from it certainly have been.

    And my vote would be to get the vertical grip. I doubt the A800 will be a big enough upgrade to warrant a new camera, you might be better off saving for full frame or CZ glass. A vertical grip is one of the next things I plan to pick up for my 40D. The 40D and A700 are big enough they don't benefit from a VG as much as the entry cameras, but from having one on the A300, I think it is still worth it.
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    Has the A800 been confirmed?? I haven't seen anything about it yet. If so can someone post the specs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkie1263 View Post
    Has the A800 been confirmed?? I haven't seen anything about it yet. If so can someone post the specs.

    Frank
    No. I'm just making an educated guess. It will probably be a lot like the D300 or 50D, with maybe a few more features b/c it is kinda a generation ahead of those two.

    I'm expecting something like the A700 body, with live view, tilting screen 15MP, better high ISO noise, 1080p video, and probably out by the end of the year.

    Now Sony might throw a curveball, they kinda need to. It might be a cheap FF. Also Sony could do something interesting with AF to make the video mode way better than it is on the Canons and Nikon that record video.
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    My warning about the KM AF 24-105mmm f/3.5-4.5 "D" is that you cannot get parts for it, should it become damaged or be defective and SONY will NOT repair it. So, take your chances as you wish, with "used" equipment. Luckily, SONY reimbursed me for my trouble, but I feel that may no longer be the case for others who find themselves in such a predicament.

    A new SONY AF 24-105mm f/3.5-4.5 ($459) would only have a standard one-year warranty on it, like any of the other SONY glass (except in Canada). That year goes pretty fast.

    For the sharpest results, I still think that the TAMRON SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD Asperical (IF) ($369) and its inherent 6-year warranty is the best bang for the almighty buck!

    Just an opinion ... but, it is one I back with some pretty good results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laydros View Post
    I'm expecting something like the A700 body, with live view, tilting screen 15MP, better high ISO noise, 1080p video, and probably out by the end of the year.

    Now Sony might throw a curveball, they kinda need to. It might be a cheap FF. Also Sony could do something interesting with AF to make the video mode way better than it is on the Canons and Nikon that record video.
    thats exactly what it will be. i've ben saying this for 6 months. its just pure common sense. it will also include better auto iso and lens adjust...both of which will all of a sudden be a revolution to the sony crowd. given sonys track record for subscribing to the gimmicky marketing hype, its quite possible that they will release a 21mp apsc camera which would be a huge mistake.

    sony dont really need to do much more than tweak their AF in LV mode cos their system is already better than canikon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooz View Post
    sony dont really need to do much more than tweak their AF in LV mode cos their system is already better than canikon.
    No, the LV is produced by a secondary sensor up in the prism housing. So the current LV AF system would not work for video, because the primary sensor is needed for video, unless they do something wacky. Bearing in mind that 1080p is only about 2MP, this might be possible. This is probably why the A700 and A900 don't have live view, they would be using a QVGA sensor on a VGA screen, and it would look like poop.

    I agree Sony is the worst at filling in the check boxes on a Best Buy POP card with the entry level cameras, but I think they are trying to be smart with the prosumer and FF. A800 may get micro adjust, but I doubt they will go over 16MP. I think 12 (A700 and D300) was about the sweet spot.
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