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  1. #1
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    Question Lens to stay away from ... for better imaging

    Hey guys (and gals),

    I was wondering if we should do a round-robin of lenses to "shy away from", in order to provide a better idea of what will assure you an improved shot without having to fight the inherent quality of the glass.

    I guess I mean what particular lens do you possibly have that is causing you heartburn and disappointment in your results. If you could elaborate on the particular problem, that might be helpful, too.

    Okay ... I'll go later ... someone flip a coin and see who's next. Thanks
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    My Minolta 70-210 3.5 has been less than outstanding for me. I know it's NOT 'THE' beercan, colors are nice very very 'minolta-y' plenty of CA, yes I know it's a film lens, AF is plenty fast, but doesn't track real well. I think my lens has been well used, it looks VERY sharp and clean, only minor wear, the Minolta case with red velvet is in great shape. the big issue isn't zoom creep, man it's more like zoom SPRINT!
    I may be willing to sell this at a very fair price, full disclosure and sample pics, try it out if we work out shipping arrangements.
    Sony A700_____________Minolta AF 50mm. F/1.7
    Minolta AF 70-210mm F/3.5-4.5 Tamron AF 17-50mm F/2.8 XR DiII LD Asp. [IF]
    Tamron SP AF 70-200mm. F/2.8 DI LD [IF] Macro
    Tamron AF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 Di LD Macro 1:2
    Tokina AF 28-70mm F/3.5-4.5
    Tokina AF AT-X 80-400mm F/4.5-5.6
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  3. #3
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    anything made by tamron. (except the 90mm)
    D800e l V3 l AW1 l 16-35 l 35 l 50 l 85 l 105 l EM1 l 7.5 l 12-40 l 14 l 17 l 25 l 45 l 60 l 75
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    Exclamation ooo -- too harsh on Tamron, by me

    My 18-250 is my sharpest lens right now, so dismissing 'all' Tamrons (but one) is extreme. I'll admit to relatively slow focusing, so that could be an issue for some. I also had their 17-35 for a while, very happy with it but let it go to finance the 18-250. I suspect I'd be happy with the fast 17-50, but will leave it for others to comment. I had a 28-200 XR Di that could be on your list though - a bit more color fringing than I liked, and somewhat soft above 135mm.

    I too have a Minolta-af 70-210 2nd-gen lens, it isn't great wide open but seems to do fine work at f/6.3 and above. Compared to the 18-250 it's a speedy focuser. I need to set up a test scene and let my lenses have a fair fight some day soon, since these lenses do a lot of the same work.. but I do like the warmer Minolta colors.

    Another sour lens for me was a Sigma 18-125, which the kit lens beat on a simple newsprint test. At both 18 and 35mm, the newsprint was too fuzzy & vignetted near the corners.

    It should be noted that we so often generalize from one copy of these lenses, and others have great copies that serve them well.. but copy variation is a point that beginners should be aware of!
    JimR - gear list changes daily
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  5. #5
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    Of course it's extreme.....
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    Canon 7D - 5D | 550EX - 430EX II - (2) PW FlexTT5 | 24-105 f4L | 70-200 f2.8L IS | 100 f2.8L IS | 50 f1.8 II

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    I haven't used any.... but I'm guessing the Phoneix lenses are to be avoided if you are interested in good quality. Anybody have any experience with them?
    Jason Hamilton
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    EOS 5D - Canon EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM, EF 35 f/2, EF 50mm f/1.8 Mk II, EF 70-210 f/3.5-4.5 USM, EF 85mm f/1.8 USM, EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro, Helios 44-2 58mm f/2 (with EOS adapter), 430EX, Canon S90
    Nikon FE - Nikkor 35mm f/2 AI'd, Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 AI, Nikkor 105mm f/2.5 AI, F to EF adapter, 2xVivitar 285, other lighting stuff
    Mamiya C220 - 80mm f/2.8

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  7. #7
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    Why didn't I think of this before? The kit lens ... duh! 50mm F/1.7 is leaps and bounds ahead of it!
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    Canon 7D - 5D | 550EX - 430EX II - (2) PW FlexTT5 | 24-105 f4L | 70-200 f2.8L IS | 100 f2.8L IS | 50 f1.8 II

  8. #8
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    Thumbs down Phoenix zoom lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by laydros View Post
    I haven't used any.... but I'm guessing the Phoneix lenses are to be avoided if you are interested in good quality. Anybody have any experience with them?

    @ Jason
    : Unfortunately, Phoenix lenses are not very good quality. I have an AF 28-105mm f/2.8-3.8 that I actually bought for $5. Uh ... yeah, $5. What does that tell you? I dare you to find one cheaper.

    This lens suffers from "lens creep" worse than any other lens I have seen. If you even tilt the lens down ... it'll head right out to 105mm. It is probably one of the most annoying lenses I've ever tried, but to each their own.

    Call it a "beach lens", because if you drop this one in the sand ... it might just work better!
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

  9. #9
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    Talking

    I have a 100-400 that was 10.00 at a yard sale. It works so I thought it was worth the 10.00 bucks
    Sony A100
    HVL-F36AM
    Sony18-70
    Sigma 28-70
    Sigma 75-200
    Tamron 28-200
    Phoenix 100-400

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