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  1. #21
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    Why make a flag ship then something better months later?

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    Question Shook up about the shake

    Quote Originally Posted by SONYNUT View Post
    I don't want anti shake... I sware the thing moves when you don't want it to...one of these days im snippin the wire and siliconing it steady
    If you shut "SSS" off ... does it move?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SONYNUT View Post
    Why make a flag ship then something better months later?
    mini flag ship

    Well they probably would want to have an APS-C flag. (D700/D3x and D300, 5dM2 and 50D?/40D)

    And then new technologies (backlit sensors? exmor-R) are always outpacing older ones which is why it is inevitable for improvements.
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    no way is it gonna be a backlit sensor, dont be kidding yourselves. its going to be a 15mp a700 with LV and video mode with a few other minor incremental improvements. thats it. the LV and video are essential, one would hope that it also inherits the LV flip screens from the lower models aswell. if anyone is expecting more than that then they are going to be very disappointed.
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    'Rooz' ... did they call you directly, when they decided this? Or was it just something you overheard in a SONY board meeting? I have to admit, a backlit sensor would just be such a major kick to Canon and Nikon ... it probably would crash their stock, once the implications were truly understood. No one is ready for that, right at the moment. It would be way too hot.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 01-21-2009 at 09:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooz View Post
    no way is it gonna be a backlit sensor, dont be kidding yourselves. its going to be a 15mp a700 with LV and video mode with a few other minor incremental improvements. thats it. the LV and video are essential, one would hope that it also inherits the LV flip screens from the lower models aswell. if anyone is expecting more than that then they are going to be very disappointed.
    You're ruining all our fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooz View Post
    no way is it gonna be a backlit sensor, dont be kidding yourselves. its going to be a 15mp a700 with LV and video mode with a few other minor incremental improvements. thats it. the LV and video are essential, one would hope that it also inherits the LV flip screens from the lower models aswell. if anyone is expecting more than that then they are going to be very disappointed.
    I certainly don't have my hopes much higher than what Rooz is saying. I doubt they will have the backlit sensor up from 5mp listed in that article to 15mp already. I don't think the 5mp is even in production yet.

    I certainly hope I am proven wrong, but I'm going to hope for the best and expect the ok.

    I think what Sony could really do to shake things up is release a lower end FF, using a sensor in the 12-15MP range, like the D700, for less than $2k. It would probably be sold at a loss, but it could really draw people to Sony. They currently undersell CaNikon on the low end, (A300 for ~$550 vs XSi for $650) maybe they could do it in the mid-range.

    Hopefully we will see a further improvement in high-ISO/low-noise over the current bodies. And something with better high-ISO performance than the A700 is really all I want right now. Well, beyond the money to drop on one.
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    New lens rumors (pretty much in line with what we have heard so far from other rumors, oh joy, they just keep spreading!)

    PMA09 可能发布的新镜:
    Sony AF DT 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 (Tamron design)
    Sony AF DT 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 (Tamron design)
    Sony AF DT 18-55mm f/3.5-4.5 (Sony design) new kit lens
    Sony AF 24-105 F4 G SSM(Sony design)
    Sony AF 200/fa macro za ssm(Zeiss design)
    Sony AF 600/4 G SSM(Sony design)
    Sony AF 24/1.4 ZA (Zeiss design)
    http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=594857

    Guess all of our kit lenses are about to be outdated?

    24-105 F/4 has my attention if it's good. FF ready!

    Wonder what that 200mm's aperture is? But it has SSM! (Guessing F/3.5)

    24mm F1.4 wtf? no money for fast wide angle primes, LOL

    18-270mm (Tamron VC design?) = don's new favorite end all, kit walk around replacement?

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    Also check this out!

    http://www.photographybay.com/2009/01/21/sony-a800/

    FAKE, but for lulz


    Sony A800 Rumored Specs (version 1)

    * body design similar to A700
    * 100% OVF (pentaprism bigger than A700)
    * 15.2Mp APS-C CMOS
    * ISO 200-6400 expandable to 100 & 12800
    * Quick LV
    * flippable back LCD
    * 6.5 frame per second
    * New high speed flash sync
    * 9 double cross f/2.8 AF sensor (23 total AF sensor)
    * New metering and AF sensor with tracking and previous focus
    * Dual AF Ultra-Speed motor ??
    * Wi-Fi built-in
    * Dual memory card slot CF & MS
    * New battery
    * A700 grip will be compatible
    * micro AF adjustment
    * full function eyestarter (pre-focus)

    (via DPR)
    Sony A800 Rumored Specs (version 2)

    * 15.2Mpx APS-C CMOS Exmor “R” sensor
    * ISO 100-12.800
    * 6.5 frame per second
    * New high speed flash sync
    * 9 double cross f/2.8 AF sensor (23 total AF sensor)
    * New metering and AF sensor with tracking and previous focus
    * Dual AF Ultr-Speed motor ??
    * Wi-Fi built-in

    (via Photofan.jp)
    Last edited by dr4gon; 01-21-2009 at 09:29 PM.
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    Cool Powerful indoor glass ...

    If SONY released an AF 200mm f/2 SSM lens ... then they'd have a severe competitive draw in the market. That would be such an excellent indoor athletics or theater lens for a full frame. Minolta didn't even have one of those, as I recall, just f/2.8

    Of course, a 100mm+ first element would be quite weighty (roughly 5lbs for the entire lens), also.

    Between that and the CZ 135mm f/1.8 ... your "party selection" would be complete!
    Last edited by DonSchap; 01-21-2009 at 10:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    'Rooz' ... did they call you directly, when they decided this? Or was it just something you overheard in a SONY board meeting?
    common sense.
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