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    New Presidential Portrait

    I hope we can avoid this turning into a political discussion.

    I just ran into this via John Gruber's daring fireball blog, the new Presidential portrait. Pete Souza scored the enviable position as the new White House photographer, but whats perhaps the most interesting is that this is the first Presidential Portrait taken on a digital. EXIF indicates a Canon 5D Mk II.

    Link to the release and image is here.

    I think that brings about 2 points. One is how fast technology moves. I recently read an article about how Obama is not looking forward to having to quit using his Blackberry, and how Bush sent an email to all of his personal friends right before being sworn into office because he could no longer use email. But Clinton probably didn't even have an email account in 1992, however when he came out, it was very popular.

    The second is... if a 20+ MP DSLR (like the D3X, 5D Mk II, or A900) is being used for the Presidential Portrait, what does this mean for medium format?

    Is it still in strong use for landscapes?

    It seems like some of the photographers I follow (Annie Leibovitz, Chase Jarvis) still use medium format along side FF DSLR, but I think the gap is narrowing.
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    Like anything ... photography tends to blur the field of participants.

    Happily, if medium format is challenged, the costs should be reduced. Right now, the basic layout begins at $10,000 and rises skyward. Darn few students shooting at this price-level.
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    Here is the Exif for that image.
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    Camera Make: Canon
    Camera Model: Canon EOS 5D Mark II
    Image Date: 2009:01:13 17:38:39
    Flash Used: No
    Focal Length: 105.0mm
    Exposure Time: 0.0080 s (1/125)
    Aperture: f/10.0
    ISO equiv: 100
    Metering Mode: Matrix
    Exposure: Manual
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    Is 105mm one of the Canon primes, or was the photographer probably shooting with something like a 70-200. I know Canon makes both a f/4 and an f/2.8 which are highly regarded.

    Or I guess it could be the long end of the 24-105mm.
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    I don't think there's a 105 Canon prime. I know both Nikon and Sigma have macro lenses at 105mm. Otherwise, I'd say zoom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laydros View Post
    I hope we can avoid this turning into a political discussion.

    I just ran into this via John Gruber's daring fireball blog, the new Presidential portrait. Pete Souza scored the enviable position as the new White House photographer, but whats perhaps the most interesting is that this is the first Presidential Portrait taken on a digital. EXIF indicates a Canon 5D Mk II.

    Link to the release and image is here.

    I think that brings about 2 points. One is how fast technology moves. I recently read an article about how Obama is not looking forward to having to quit using his Blackberry, and how Bush sent an email to all of his personal friends right before being sworn into office because he could no longer use email. But Clinton probably didn't even have an email account in 1992, however when he came out, it was very popular.

    The second is... if a 20+ MP DSLR (like the D3X, 5D Mk II, or A900) is being used for the Presidential Portrait, what does this mean for medium format?

    Is it still in strong use for landscapes?

    It seems like some of the photographers I follow (Annie Leibovitz, Chase Jarvis) still use medium format along side FF DSLR, but I think the gap is narrowing.
    Jason, its a portrait. it doesnt mean a thing. that shot could have been taken with your sony with the exact same result. i see the fools at dpreview are arguing about the incorrect colour space used in that portrait and all sorts of other nonsense. i mean...really...when will the madness end ?

    the only great thing about the portrait is America finally has a good man in the White House and not a terrorist ignoramus.
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    Rooz...I agree with you 100% on photographic related stuff, but seriously, cut the crap about our President, alright? You just can't go without a quick jab at the end of your posts.

    You know NOTHING about Barack, naturally so being outside the US you haven't been involved with the "other side of the story" here and instead have been fed the liberal Obama-mania mainstream news in spoonfulls.
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    No matter the equipment, it doesn't disguise the fact that this is a really poor Portrait of the man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visual Reality View Post
    Rooz...I agree with you 100% on photographic related stuff, but seriously, cut the crap about our President, alright? You just can't go without a quick jab at the end of your posts.

    You know NOTHING about Barack, naturally so being outside the US you haven't been involved with the "other side of the story" here and instead have been fed the liberal Obama-mania mainstream news in spoonfulls.
    lol it was you who were duped for 8 years. i can, and will, say whatever i choose to say VR. is that not the "freedom" you're **cough cough** president got others to fight for ?

    they do say the truth cuts deepest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peekayoh View Post
    No matter the equipment, it doesn't disguise the fact that this is a really poor Portrait of the man.
    I'm curious what makes it poor. I kinda think it is too, but I can't figure out why.

    It seems like Presidential portraits typically have the feel of being imposing but nice. Instead of looking like a big guy with a smile (every portrait since Nixon has been a smile, at least the ones on wikipedia) he looks like a skinny guy without a smile.
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