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    for whats it's worth I would wonder about a open box demo with a qauntity of 4? unl;ess there from different stores around the country I guess. I haven't heard anything bad about Wolff but Ihave never heard or seen anything GOOD about them also. My own thoughts also are if you own any of the alpha's you really should have the 50mm 1.7 it's so small also you don't even have to "count' it as a lens in your bag. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanhoxx View Post
    for whats it's worth I would wonder about a open box demo with a qauntity of 4? unl;ess there from different stores around the country I guess. I haven't heard anything bad about Wolff but Ihave never heard or seen anything GOOD about them also. My own thoughts also are if you own any of the alpha's you really should have the 50mm 1.7 it's so small also you don't even have to "count' it as a lens in your bag. LOL
    Yeah, I've picked up a thrifty fifty since, and use it a lot.

    I think these are the old stock from all of the Wolf (and probably Ritz) stores around the country. They don't sell anything Minolta at all anymore.

    However, the 28-85 has been a really good replacement for the kit lens, and this would only get me 4mm wider. The longer side (and ADI, smaller size & weight, and digital coatings) are nice, but doesn't seem like it's really worth spending another $200. At this point I'm pretty much looking for something a good bit wider, or some more primes.
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    I have to say, reading the thread at dynexdigital where Don talks about the 24-105, and what some of the other people say about it, makes me want one.

    However, that little part about a 24-105 f/4 G sure sounds even better.

    But with a new, open box available for just over $200, the Minolta one seems hard to resist.
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    glad this sony experiment is working out cheaper for you Don. at least your doing your bit for the economy and keeping repair people in jobs.
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    Rooz ... I believe you are discounting the wrong bunch. Admittedly, SONY does not have its marketing plan running right, but their equipment parts are use by Nikon. Who is kidding who? They are all in bed, together! The cost of going this ALONE is just too much.

    I am not going to excuse B&H Video from selling me a broken lens. That was not right. They should have either submitted it for repair, themselves, or simply destroyed it ... NOT REDEPLOY IT. That is just ethically bankrupt.
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    Exclamation Clearly making my point!

    I, today, received an email from the local repair facility, concerning the disposition of my aforementioned malfunctioning K-M AF 24-105mm f/3.5-4.5 "D" lens

    In a nutshell: SONY has agreed to buy-back the lens from me (this one time), since they will not repair it, as it it not on a list of "repairable lenses" they are now supporting.

    I know what you are thinking: "What list of repairable lenses?"

    My contention is that the only way you can NOW buy a Minolta (or Konica-Minolta) lens is buying it "USED." There are, for all intents and purposes, no "NEW" ones out there, any longer.

    Apparently, from what I was recently advised of, when SONY bought the Camera Division of Konica-Minolta, they did NOT buy it all. Some reductions were made ... and hence, the alleged "LIST OF NON-SUPPORTED GLASS" ... because, all the parts necessary to support those additional lenses was not purchased. It has simply "vanished" when the Camera Division of Konica-Minolta was sold off (it does leave one to wonder ... "where is all that repair inventory and stuff?"

    It's just weird how you find these things out. No bulletin, no news ... just situational awareness and lost time.

    Anyway ... I have asked for a copy of this "LIST", in order to publish it online, so the rest of the readership can avoid this "crystalline-buying-nightmare." Until then, watch out what you are buying ... as many Minolta (or K-M) lenses have hit the proverbial "end of the line." Arguably, this lens was not one I would have anticipated having a problem with, since SONY still makes it with their branding. Must be one weird part involved.
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    That is crazy. I could understand something that Sony didn't carry over, like the 24-85, or something from further back like the 35-70, for example, but the 24-105 was one of the designs that Sony carried right through.

    Does that mean they are going to give you the full retail price (I think around $450, correct?) If so, you might have come out on top. Spend that money towards a CZ 24-70.... might help you get over the loss of the 24-105.
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    Yeah, how much are they offering you?
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    Unhappy Some loss ...

    Quote Originally Posted by laydros View Post
    That is crazy. I could understand something that Sony didn't carry over, like the 24-85, or something from further back like the 35-70, for example, but the 24-105 was one of the designs that Sony carried right through.

    Does that mean they are going to give you the full retail price (I think around $450, correct?) If so, you might have come out on top. Spend that money towards a CZ 24-70.... might help you get over the loss of the 24-105.
    No ... it wound up being a pro-rated price. I spent $269 with B&H Video for the lens from the "Used Equipment Department." When I realized it was malfunctioning, during my Dubuque, IA-trip ... I submitted it for the repair (hopefully, just an adjustment) and found out it had a "parts issue."

    Anyway ... the stated check amount will be $253 (to be cut in mid-February 2009). So, I'm out $16 for all of this, but B&H Video is out my business with any type of "Used Equipment" Sales. I mean, this lens should have been "operational" before they sold it off. In effect ... it is "junk", as it cannot be repaired by even the SONY Repair Center. Buyer Beware! Hey, no kidding.
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    Well glad you did get some use out of it and it wasn't like they were offering you $100 for it.
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