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  1. #2501
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    OH SH**! THATS MY LEG

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    Camera: Sony DSLR-A900
    Lens: Minolta MD Macro Rokkor 100mm f4
    Focal Length: 100mm
    ISO Speed: 320
    31th August 2010

  2. #2502
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    I was watching this snowy egret hunt for fish. I wasn't fast enough to catch it with a fish but did get one halfway decent shot.

    Frank


    Sony A77
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    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

  3. #2503
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    Frank, if there's anything that could make me envious of living in America, it could be what we would think of as exotic wildlife. The Snowy Egret being one example.
    Here's a link to the best picture I've seen of the bird.

  4. #2504
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    Pete, I am going back to Florida this weekend. They are real people friendly down there. They walk right up to you when you are fishing. Here is another one I took in April when I was down there.

    Frank


    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

  5. #2505
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    Lucky Man.
    Just remember to use your exposure compensation button.
    All that white will fool the meter into underexposure.

  6. #2506
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peekayoh View Post
    Lucky Man.
    Just remember to use your exposure compensation button.
    All that white will fool the meter into underexposure.
    I shoot M so I will take some test shots to try to get it right.


    Thanks
    Frank
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

  7. #2507
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    Frank, I'm intrigued!
    What then is your procedure for achieving correct exposure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peekayoh View Post
    Frank, I'm intrigued!
    What then is your procedure for achieving correct exposure?
    I take a test shot before and try to set my exposure for what aperture I want to shoot at. Then I check the histogram and make sure I am not over exposed on the light side. I read about the Zone System and I try to follow that. Or you can set the camera to Aperture mode and see what speed the camera is set to and then you can adjust your shot from there. You may miss a few shots if you are shooting wildlife.

    Frank

    I don't think this is the one I read.

    http://www.normankoren.com/zonesystem.html
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

  9. #2509
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    These are only rare if you don't have Photo Shop.


    Frank

    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

  10. #2510
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    Ok Frank, I see that you may indeed miss a few shots.

    Look, the Zone metering system was developed back in the old days of film when we didn't have the benefit of the Histogram. It's pretty tricky to determine the Zones and requires an accurate narrow angle spot meter. Digital is a bit like slide film in that you really need to avoid overexposure of the critical areas, film has a more forgiving roll off into clipping.

    You should also remember that the Histogram is not necessarily accurate, it's based on a camera processed JPEG and usually it's a bit pessimistic and tends toward underexposure. Of course that also depends on where you metered and which metering mode you chose. Still, I can't help thinking that you're over complicating things.

    Seems to me that (A)perture priority (S)hutter priority or (P)rogram shift quickly get you to where you need to be and a check of the Histogram will assist in dialing in the correct (??) amount of compensation. I realise that the A700 is better than the A100 in this respect as you can assign the rear dial to compensation while the front dial takes care of shifting.

    I honestly can't see why you would prefer full time (M)anual. Been there, done that and now I only go into (M)anual for Macro. I think you'd be better off in RAW using UniWhite Balance.

    EDIT: Missed that link first time around. You're definitely stuck in the film era, Frank.
    Last edited by Peekayoh; 09-13-2010 at 01:52 PM. Reason: Addition

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