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  1. #1
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    Nikon #1 in DSLR...but for how long ?

    Nikon's last couple of years has, by any measure, been exceptional. the d80, d200, d40 have led a huge surge in technical competance and quality. then they follow it up by the D300, d3 and d700. impressive stuff to lead in performance in every department bar price.

    BUT for how long will this hold true ? imo nikon are now showing the same sort of arrogant ass attitude canon held for years. a d3x asking $8k smacks of "we're #1 and this is the best camera on Earth so we'll charge what we f*ckin well like.".

    if you ask me as a current nikon shooter this is not good news for us. why ? cos they have attained this #1 spot partly by default due competitors not being what they should be to keep the leader, (any leader), honest:

    1. canon's lazy development program,
    2. 4/3rds system shooting itself in the foot and cannabilising the format with m4/3rds,
    3. pentax who have lost the plot completely
    4. the promising Sony who have overpromised and quite frankly...underdelivered.

    the MOST frustrating thing is that and they have delivered this result with minimum updates to a lens lineup begging for updates. so what impotus is there here to upgrade lens' now ? lets hope that the ethos that has driven Nikon to #1 holds true for a while longer but my fear is they think they've hit a finish line and we will be waiting far too long for crucial lens updates.

    thanks for listening to my rant as i'm still here waiting for a 50/1.4 afs which was announced 3 months ago but STILL unavailable.


    Nikon snaps up DSLR number one spot: Camera company finally knocks Canon off its perch
    http://www.techradar.com/news/photog...=rss&attr=news

    Nikon has announced that it is now the UK's leading manufacturer of DSLRs. Speaking at the UK launch of the company's flagship D3X camera, the company boasted of a prosperous year, which has seen Nikon's DSLR sales growth expand by 333 per cent, compared 2004/05 figures.

    The official announcement is that Nikon is "number one for share by volume in the UK, Europe, USA and Japan." The impressive figure of 333 per cent is mainly due to Nikon in recent years getting aggressive in the DSLR market, making sure that everyone from first-time DSLR buyers to high-end professionals have the option to buy a Nikon-branded camera. This includes the recently announced D3X.

    Nikon beating Canon
    The fight in the DSLR market between Canon and Nikon has always been a close one, with last year's figures suggesting that Canon won the camera war by just one per cent – taking a 41 per cent market share to Nikon's 40 per cent. Predicted DSLR sales for Nikon for this year are around 3.3 million. Compare this to just 2 million in 2004, and the company's fortunes are definitely going in the right direction.
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    You are sounding more like Mr Hogan every day.

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    Hey, enjoy the slide!

    Should be an interesting year, for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooz View Post


    the MOST frustrating thing is that and they have delivered this result with minimum updates to a lens lineup begging for updates. so what impotus is there here to upgrade lens' now ? lets hope that the ethos that has driven Nikon to #1 holds true for a while longer but my fear is they think they've hit a finish line and we will be waiting far too long for crucial lens updates.

    thanks for listening to my rant as i'm still here waiting for a 50/1.4 afs which was announced 3 months ago but STILL unavailable.
    I agree wholeheartedly.

    In the consumer/prosumer market, I'd like to see:

    24mm f1.8 AF-S (A prosumer prime like the new 50mm AF-S)

    35mm f2 AF-S (Slap on a micro-motor if need be to keep the price reasonable)

    50mm f1.8 AF-S (just the micro-motor as in the D40 kit lens and Canon 50/1.8. Something for the more creative D40 users for $119 or so that should finally put to bed the need for a cheap, fast AF prime on the cheap Nikons)

    300mm f4 AF-S VR (Way overdue to get VR, IMO - great otherwise)

    80-400mm f3.5-5.6 AF-S VR (Needs fast AF-S...)

    I don't think we'll get these very quickly, though, given Nikon's current focus (seemingly) on updating the high end stuff.
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    Nikon D80, D300s, Nikkormat EL, Tamron 17-50mm f2.8, 55-200mm f4-f5.6 VR AF-S Nikkor, 50mm f1.8 AF-D Nikkor, 80-200mm f2.8 AF-D Nikkor, 135mm f2.8 Nikkor-Q pre-AI, Hanimex 35mm f2.8 doorstop

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    Quote Originally Posted by K1W1 View Post
    You are sounding more like Mr Hogan every day.
    lol well...coulda been worse. you coulda said i sound like that "other guy".
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    Yep, it really seems like they're out of touch with their lens lineup. They don't have a pulse on what people want. All they do is keep pumping out yet another 18-x f/4-5.6 consumer zoom and refusing to give us f/4 zooms or at least a decent standard zoom for FX that isn't the 24-70/2.8.

    Nikon: D300, D700, Nikkor: 24-70, 70-200, 70-300/VR, 24/2.8, 35/2, 50/1.4G, 60/2.8G, 180/2.8,
    Sigma: 10-20, 50-150/2.8, 50/2.8, Tamron: 17-50/2.8, 28-75/2.8, Tokina: 12-24, Zeiss: 25/2.8
    Olympus: E-520, E-3, 7-14, 9-18, 11-22, 12-60, 14-35/2, 14-54, 35-100/2, 50-200, 25/2.8, 35/3.5, 50/2
    Panasonic: G1, Leica: 14-50, 14-150, 25/1.4
    Sony: A700, A900, 24-85, 35-70, 70-210/4, 20/2.8, 24/2.8, 50/2.8, T 90 macro, Zeiss: 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8
    P&S: Canon S90, Panasonic: LX3


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    Quote Originally Posted by swpars View Post
    I agree wholeheartedly.

    In the consumer/prosumer market, I'd like to see:

    24mm f1.8 AF-S (A prosumer prime like the new 50mm AF-S)

    35mm f2 AF-S (Slap on a micro-motor if need be to keep the price reasonable)

    50mm f1.8 AF-S (just the micro-motor as in the D40 kit lens and Canon 50/1.8. Something for the more creative D40 users for $119 or so that should finally put to bed the need for a cheap, fast AF prime on the cheap Nikons)

    300mm f4 AF-S VR (Way overdue to get VR, IMO - great otherwise)

    80-400mm f3.5-5.6 AF-S VR (Needs fast AF-S...)

    I don't think we'll get these very quickly, though, given Nikon's current focus (seemingly) on updating the high end stuff.
    You forgot the 70-200 f/4 AF-S VRII.

    Also, a micro motored 35mm f/2 would not be an upgrade from the current lens.
    Nikon D300 | Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 | Nikkor AF-S 70-300mm VR | Nikkor AF 35mm f/2 D | SB-600 | Lowepro Voyager C | Lowepro Slingshot 300 AW

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    I think everything has political background and has a purpose why some company has that kind of lenses, and other has other ...
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    Well...OK, but Nikon got to that #1 share on the low end. D40, D40x, D60. The recent D60 and D90 are an affirmation of that attitude. The D3x is an abberation. When they don't sell, the price will float down to what does. But Nikon did not get to the #1 share in anything on pro equipment. It's the consumer cameras that drive volume.

    This is Nikon's first high megapixel camera with a fully pro body. They priced it just like Canon prices their high megapixel, fully pro body. Get over it. I suspect that within 6 months, the price of a D3x or a 1DsMkIII will be very close. They are, after all, clones of each other.

    Nikon always prices high, initially. But, we have seen the price of the D700 float down to market value, very early in it's life cycle. Earlier than is usual with Nikon cameras. I don't expect any different with the D3x. Remember, even after the price comes down, we will always pay a bit of a premium for the quality and ergonomics of a Nikon body.

    PS. Nikon has already introduced more lenses this year than is usual for the company. Give them a break. They aren't the mega corporation that is Canon, Sony or Panasonic. I'm sure they are working as fast as they can, but I'm rather glad that they stick to quality, rather than rush things to market that aren't ready.
    Last edited by erichlund; 12-03-2008 at 07:16 AM. Reason: added PS.
    Eric Lund
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    Other Lenses: Tokina 12-24 f4, Tamron 75-300mm f4-5.6 LD macro
    Stuff: Nikon SB800, Nikon MBD200, Gitzo 1327 Tripod w/RRS BH-55LR Ballhead, Sekonic L-358 meter

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichlund View Post
    PS. Nikon has already introduced more lenses this year than is usual for the company. Give them a break. They aren't the mega corporation that is Canon, Sony or Panasonic. I'm sure they are working as fast as they can, but I'm rather glad that they stick to quality, rather than rush things to market that aren't ready.
    not the ones they need though. an 18-105VR was certianly NOT necessary. even the 16-85VR should not have been at the top of their list as far as lens releases go. then there are 2 T/S lens for a specialised market. sb900...nice but this could have waitied unitl next year. the sb800 was perfectly capable. the bread and butter lens' are still ancient and their priorities are out of whack imo.
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