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    Strobe advice

    I'm keeping this thread in the canon forum because I usually get more responses here. Anyway, I'm slowly but surely setting up a small studio. I want to go with a four light set up. Will 200W strobes be enough for a small studio, portraits, stock, babies, maybe some family shots too, Or should I step up and get the 400W lights. I've heard great things about the Calumet Genesis 200 and 400W kits. The link to their website is Here What do you guys think?
    Last edited by zmikers; 11-21-2008 at 09:29 AM.
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    So much for getting more responses Really, I only need advice on 200W/S strobes or 400W/S. Basically, if the 200w will give me enough light I'll go for it.
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    I don't know much about studio strobes but... I have a studio setup using pocket flash units (speedlights). As you can see here... A 420EX and a 430EX have provided ample illumination.

    Flash ratio 1:1, 1/200th exposure, f10, 100ISO, XT and 17-85.


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    For studio strobes I use White Lightning Ultra 600's. They're rated at 300 true wattseconds and 13,000 lumenseconds. Guide # of 280 at ISO100 with 11" reflector (which I don't use, only softboxes). I don't know how this translates to what your looking at as it seems to be in the middle. Anyway, they provide plenty of light for my use. I think 1/2 power is the most I've ever used. Fill light is generally 10-12' from subject and main is 5-7' probably. Main usually meters for f8 and fill for f4-f5.6. Combined I generally shoot at about f9-f10. Throw in the hair and background light as well. Softboxes on both main & fill usually have a translucent baffle inside as well.

    Hope this helps.
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    Wish I could provide some useful comments but I can't... so basically I'm just increasing my post count....

    Good luck though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by D Thompson View Post
    For studio strobes I use White Lightning Ultra 600's. They're rated at 300 true wattseconds and 13,000 lumenseconds. Guide # of 280 at ISO100 with 11" reflector (which I don't use, only softboxes). I don't know how this translates to what your looking at as it seems to be in the middle. Anyway, they provide plenty of light for my use. I think 1/2 power is the most I've ever used. Fill light is generally 10-12' from subject and main is 5-7' probably. Main usually meters for f8 and fill for f4-f5.6. Combined I generally shoot at about f9-f10. Throw in the hair and background light as well. Softboxes on both main & fill usually have a translucent baffle inside as well.

    Hope this helps.
    This does help, cheers. It's really looking like the 200 W/S would be sufficient for most situations, but not all. So I should just bite the bullet and get the 400's.

    The problem is, I'm not too confident with equipment available here in Taiwan, so I'm ordering online and getting it sent to my folks. I'm visiting Canada at Christmas so I'll just pick it all up then. I would love to be able to buy two lights, work with them and then buy a couple more if needed later. Seems how I won't be back in Canada for at least another year, I need to order them all now. I'm just making sure I'm 100% sure about my choice.

    Cheers again for the response.
    CANON 7D, 400D, 24-104 f4L IS, 70-200 f2.8L IS, 28-105, 50 1.8, 75-300, 430 EX II, BG-E3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickcanada View Post
    Wish I could provide some useful comments but I can't... so basically I'm just increasing my post count....

    Good luck though!
    LOL no worries. I was going to respond to your post along with the response to D Thompson, but I like the idea of increasing post counts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhys View Post
    I don't know much about studio strobes but... I have a studio setup using pocket flash units (speedlights). As you can see here... A 420EX and a 430EX have provided ample illumination.

    Flash ratio 1:1, 1/200th exposure, f10, 100ISO, XT and 17-85.
    I was thinking about putting speedlites on stands, but I really think strobes are the way to go. I like having the model lamps and more variation with the strobe units. Thanks for the response.
    CANON 7D, 400D, 24-104 f4L IS, 70-200 f2.8L IS, 28-105, 50 1.8, 75-300, 430 EX II, BG-E3
    SIGMA EX 10-20 DC HSM
    KENKO Extension Tube set 12mm, 20mm, 36mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmikers View Post
    This does help, cheers. It's really looking like the 200 W/S would be sufficient for most situations, but not all. So I should just bite the bullet and get the 400's.

    The problem is, I'm not too confident with equipment available here in Taiwan, so I'm ordering online and getting it sent to my folks. I'm visiting Canada at Christmas so I'll just pick it all up then. I would love to be able to buy two lights, work with them and then buy a couple more if needed later. Seems how I won't be back in Canada for at least another year, I need to order them all now. I'm just making sure I'm 100% sure about my choice.

    Cheers again for the response.
    If you need the power of the 400's then get them. If money is an object then possibly look at doing 2 of each. That should handle those extra situations, but still not break the bank.
    Dennis

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Thompson View Post
    If you need the power of the 400's then get them. If money is an object then possibly look at doing 2 of each. That should handle those extra situations, but still not break the bank.
    2 of each?!?!?!?!?! Now that's an idea Let me think about it some more. Thanks for the advice..... again!
    CANON 7D, 400D, 24-104 f4L IS, 70-200 f2.8L IS, 28-105, 50 1.8, 75-300, 430 EX II, BG-E3
    SIGMA EX 10-20 DC HSM
    KENKO Extension Tube set 12mm, 20mm, 36mm

    http://www.mbimages.ca

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