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  1. #1
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    Lightbulb Got my SONY DSLR camera ... what next?

    Many folks have asked the obvious question … “What lens should I get since this ‘kit lens’ is not doing it (<- click here for review) for me?

    Well, here’s a suggested route that is a pretty “routine” cost-control TAMRON lens approach:

    Single lens replacement solution for the SONY DT 18-70mm f/4-5.6 (<- toss this lens)

    SONY or TAMRON 18-250 f/3.5-6.3 ~$400
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    Multiple lens approach

    1) (Normal zoom lens - for APS-C sensor cameras) TAMRON SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di-II LD ~$440
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    OR ...

    . . . option 1a) (Normal zoom lens - Full Frame sensor cameras) TAMRON SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD MACRO ~$440
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    OR ...

    . . . option 1b) (Normal zoom lens - APS-C sensor cameras) SONY CZ 16-80mm f/3.5-4.5 DT ~$700
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    OR ...

    . . . option 1c) (Normal zoom lens - Full Frame sensor cameras) SIGMA AF 24-70mm f/2.8 IF EX DG HSM ~$900

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    2) ("basic" Telephoto zoom lens) TAMRON AF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di LD MACRO ~$150
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    OR ...

    . . . option 2a) ("advanced" Telephoto zoom lens) TAMRON SP AF 70-200mm f/2.8 Di LD MACRO ~$775
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    3) (Super telephoto zoom lens) TAMRON SP AF 200-500mm f/5-6.3 Di LD ~$850
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    4) (Ultra/Wide Angle zoom lens) TAMRON SP AF 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 Di-II LD Aspherical (IF) ~$500
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    . . . option 4a) (Ultra/Wide Angle zoom lens) SIGMA AF 10-20mm f/4-5.6 DC EX HSM ~$500

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    After you have these four lenses in your bag, you are lookin' good and should not miss much!

    Also, get an external flash, either the HVL-F58AM or HVL-F42AM (Make sure you try out both units before you decide).

    Now, of course there are going to be specialty photographers, asking about dedicated 1:1 MACRO lenses, of which there are four for consideration.

    1) SONY AF 100mm f/2.8 1:1 MACRO ~$550
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    OR ...

    . . . option 1a) TAMRON SP AF 90mm f/3.5 Di 1:1 MACRO (the "bargain" of the bunch) ~$400

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    OR ...

    . . . option 1b) TAMRON SP AF60mm F2 Di-II LD (IF) 1:1 MACRO (provides the same "effective size" image on APS-C DSLR as the 90mm Di does on the Full Frame DSLR) This new release includes two LD elements to improve CA response and also is an (IF) lens which, just like the 180mm f/3.5 Di, does not change outer dimension when focusing, thereby not scaring away your more jittery MACRO subjects. ~$500

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    2) TAMRON SP AF 180mm f/3.5 Di LD 1:1 MACRO (IF) ~$600
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    All four lenses function quite well as MACROs, but the 180 'advantage':

    a) allows you to move further back;
    b) does not change physical size (as you focus)
    c) detachable tripod ring
    d) has better optics inside it to alleviate Chromatic Aberration (usually a red and green color spread around objects) due to close-up focusing through a telephoto.

    "But Don ... I need a really 'bright' lens for those darker, indoor shots. What do you suggest?"

    A: Well, a Minolta AF 50mm f/1.7 is a good choice, mainly due to the fact it was the "most produced" Minolta lens ever made. It can be had for around $100-125, in good shape. The next choice would be to get a hold of a SONY AF 50mm f/1.4 lens. They also are quite numerous, but cost roughly $350.




    Personally, though, I think you will have better results using the TAMRON 17-50mm f/2.8 @ f/2.8 and an external flash, if necessary. Using apertures wider than f/2.8 usually results in "soft looking" subjects.


    Here is a heck of a list of SONY/Minolta & Konica-Minolta lenses (<- click this link) you can chose from, also. Definitely worth a look-see.

    Okay .... I guess we are done, here. Any questions? LOL

    Remember: if your lens came in a plain, sticker-labeled or stenciled box, inside the camera's original box ... it is time to start looking for a new lens.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 07-25-2010 at 05:46 AM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

  2. #2
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    Looks great. I had forgotten about the 10-24mm. I've been looking at the Sigma 10-20mm, but am wary of sigma and just haven't been too impressed.

    Looks pretty good though...


    Samples: http://www.flickr.com/photos/2113260...7607446178520/

    You should add a flash addon detailing maybe the advantages of the 58 over the 42 over the 36.


    .... I'm slowly working down the list!
    flickr

    Canon 7D - 5D | 550EX - 430EX II - (2) PW FlexTT5 | 24-105 f4L | 70-200 f2.8L IS | 100 f2.8L IS | 50 f1.8 II

  3. #3
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    That's good advice, Don. I recommend the Tamron 17-50/2.8 to every Canikon owner who asks me "what lens should I get".

    Unfortunately, I recommended one to my friend who just got a Nikon D300, and it apparently has front-focus issues. I am going to test it out for him on my bodies to confirm whether that is the case or not.

    Nikon: D300, D700, Nikkor: 24-70, 70-200, 70-300/VR, 24/2.8, 35/2, 50/1.4G, 60/2.8G, 180/2.8,
    Sigma: 10-20, 50-150/2.8, 50/2.8, Tamron: 17-50/2.8, 28-75/2.8, Tokina: 12-24, Zeiss: 25/2.8
    Olympus: E-520, E-3, 7-14, 9-18, 11-22, 12-60, 14-35/2, 14-54, 35-100/2, 50-200, 25/2.8, 35/3.5, 50/2
    Panasonic: G1, Leica: 14-50, 14-150, 25/1.4
    Sony: A700, A900, 24-85, 35-70, 70-210/4, 20/2.8, 24/2.8, 50/2.8, T 90 macro, Zeiss: 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8
    P&S: Canon S90, Panasonic: LX3


  4. #4
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    Well, that would be a shame because I had similar issues with several TAMRON SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD Aspherical (IF) MACRO lenses. One Canon-mount (2006), one SONY-mount (July 2008) and another fellow photog with his own SONY-mount (Aug 2008).

    I had mine successfully corrected by TAMRON, but the other photog took his back w/o replacement.

    I sincerely hope they aren't seeing this happen with the 17-50, now. That would be disastrous.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 05-15-2009 at 04:54 AM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

  5. #5
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    Indoors Low Light Photography.

    I guess I am a little old fashion. I started out in photography before zooms were so popular.

    Sometimes its a challenge to teach an old dog new tricks.

    My personal preference for indoors: Minolta 100 f/2.0, Sony 135 f/1.8, Minolta 35or50 f/1.4 or Minolta 50 f/1.7 I do prefer the older color coatings of the older Minolta 35. The 100 f/2.0 had to be a mistake. Out of all the prime lenses Minolta ever produced, the 100 f/2.0 is (in my opinion) the sharpest (set at its widest aperture).
    A.J.

    Hey this looks dangerous.......You go first!

    If at first you don't succeed, Skydiving is not for you!

  6. #6
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    To Don and the other informed ones:

    Can you please detail your opinions on decent tripods? I'm going to Prague at the start of December for my first real photographic outing. By that I mean I have four full days during which I intend to do nothing but walk around with my camera whilst my girlfriend is at work I think I'll need a tripod to take with me but I know absolutely nothing about them.

    I'm 6'2 and don't like bending over for long periods of time (?!). Can you recommend anything in the 'medium' price range?

    Thanks in advance.

  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobJohnson View Post
    To Don and the other informed ones:

    Can you please detail your opinions on decent tripods? [...]

    I'm 6'2 and don't like bending over for long periods of time (?!). Can you recommend anything in the 'medium' price range?
    I like the Manfrotto 190XPROB with the 804RC2 tilt/pan head (quick-release plate, lower cost) or the 322RC2 grip action ball head (for quick adjustments in the field, more expensive).

    Nikon: D300, D700, Nikkor: 24-70, 70-200, 70-300/VR, 24/2.8, 35/2, 50/1.4G, 60/2.8G, 180/2.8,
    Sigma: 10-20, 50-150/2.8, 50/2.8, Tamron: 17-50/2.8, 28-75/2.8, Tokina: 12-24, Zeiss: 25/2.8
    Olympus: E-520, E-3, 7-14, 9-18, 11-22, 12-60, 14-35/2, 14-54, 35-100/2, 50-200, 25/2.8, 35/3.5, 50/2
    Panasonic: G1, Leica: 14-50, 14-150, 25/1.4
    Sony: A700, A900, 24-85, 35-70, 70-210/4, 20/2.8, 24/2.8, 50/2.8, T 90 macro, Zeiss: 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8
    P&S: Canon S90, Panasonic: LX3


  8. #8
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    Found these on ebay. There are more I was looking at them the other day.
    Frank


    http://cgi.ebay.com/MANFROTTO-190XPR...3A1|240%3A1318


    http://cgi.ebay.com/MANFROTTO-BOGEN-...3A1|240%3A1318
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

  9. #9
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    Here is one with the head 100.00 no bids yet.
    Frank

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Bogen-Manfrotto-...3A1|240%3A1318
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

  10. #10
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    thanks guys. I'm English so I'll have a look at what our Brit ebay has in terms of those models.

    great stuff

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